Magnetic potential derivation from B

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The problem involves deriving the vector potential A produced by an infinite straight wire carrying a static electric current I, within the context of electromagnetic theory.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss starting points for the derivation, including the use of magnetic flux density B and the relationship between B and A. Some suggest using Stokes' theorem and question the applicability of certain formulas when current does not approach zero at infinity.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants offering various approaches and questioning assumptions about the derivation process. There is no explicit consensus, but several lines of reasoning are being explored, including the symmetry of the problem and the implications of using different mathematical tools.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential difficulties in evaluating integrals due to infinities and the need to consider the vector potential's behavior along the wire axis.

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Homework Statement


Derive the vector potential A produced by an infinite straight wire of negligible thickness, located in free space and carrying a static electric current I.

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The Attempt at a Solution


I tried to start with the expression for Mag flux density B= µH
∇xH = jωD+J (ampere's law).
I substituted H=B/µ and couldn't proceed any further.
 
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Start with the definition of the vector potential

\vec{A}=\frac{\mu_0I}{4\pi}\int^\infty_{-\infty}\frac{\vec{dl}}{r}

and note the vector A is parallel to the wire since the vectors dl are all along the wire.
 
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I don't think that formula works if the current doesn't go to 0 in infinity. Try using Stokes instead.

\int_{\partial S} \vec{A} \cdot d\vec{s}= \iint_S (\nabla \times \vec{A}) \cdot d\vec{S}

The second integral should be very familiar.
 
I have to derive an expression for A. How can I start with A= something?
Can I start with B and then derive A?
 
I have to derive an expression for A. How can I start with A= something?

In the same way when you're asked to find the electric field of a charge distribution you start with E=something, something being the general expression for E. You then usually integrate and find E for that specific problem. Besides the hint I gave you in post 3 doesn't start with an expression A=something at all.
 
The vector potential can be expressed as follows:

B = \nabla\timesA

Magnetic field curls around an infinitely long wire, so it's clear that the vector potential must be parallel to the wire current. Also, from symmetry the vector potential must be constant along the wire axis.

Using stokes' theorem, might be able to evaluate A as a function of the radius (or "cheat" mathematically to do so) by choosing a loop to be a square loop of a certain length parallel to the wire. Set one side of the rectangle at the distance where you want to evaluate the vector potential magnitude, and the other side (of length l) at an infinite distance from the wire. Then, the dotted integral around this loop will just be A times L, the length of the side of the rectangle.

It may be difficult to evaluate the flux because you could encounter infinities, but because the vector potential can differ by the gradient of an arbitrary function, you might be able to evaluate the loop integral with respect to a certain finite point rather than infinity.
 

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