Magnification due to a Diverging Lens

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving a diverging lens, specifically focusing on calculating the height of an image formed by the lens given its focal length and the position of an object. The original poster presents their calculations and expresses confusion regarding the correctness of their answer.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the thin-lens equation and magnification equation, questioning the sign conventions for the focal length of a diverging lens. There is an exploration of the calculations for image distance and magnification, with participants revisiting their steps based on the sign of the focal length.

Discussion Status

Participants have engaged in a back-and-forth regarding the sign of the focal length and its implications for the calculations. Some have successfully recalculated the image height after correcting the focal length's sign, leading to a consensus on the correctness of the revised answer.

Contextual Notes

There is an emphasis on understanding the sign conventions for lenses, particularly for diverging lenses, which is critical for solving the problem accurately. Participants also reflect on the nature of the image produced by a diverging lens, noting characteristics such as being virtual and upright.

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Homework Statement



The focal length of the diverging lens is 74 cm. If an object with height h = 0.6 cm is located at d = 37 cm, what is the height of the image?

Homework Equations



Thin-Lens Equation:

(1/do)+(1/di)=1/f

Magnification Equation:

m=-di/do

The Attempt at a Solution



I know that first I need to find the distance of the image, di. To do this I took: 1/[(1/74cm)-(1/37cm)]. From this I got -74cm.

Next, I plugged this value into the Magnification equation: -(-74cm)/(37cm). From this I received a value of 2. Therefore the image should be 1.2 cm tall. When I entered this answer it was incorrect. I also know this is incorrect because images from a convex lens must be upright, reduced in size, and virtual.

Can anyone help me out on where I am going wrong here?
 
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davidepalmer said:
I know that first I need to find the distance of the image, di. To do this I took: 1/[(1/74cm)-(1/37cm)].
This isn't right. What's the sign of f for a diverging lens?
 
Is it negative since it is to the left of the lens?
 
davidepalmer said:
Is it negative since it is to the left of the lens?
Yes.
 
Alright, so I redid the problem with a negative focal length and got a height of .4cm.
 
davidepalmer said:
Alright, so I redid the problem with a negative focal length and got a height of .4cm.
What did you get for do? (Show how you got it.)
 
So, I redid my equation: 1/[(1/-74cm)-(1/37cm)]. This gave me: -24.667. Then I redid my magnification equation: -(-24.667)/(37). This gave me .667 for my magnification. Then when multiplied by the height i got .4 cm.
 
davidepalmer said:
So, I redid my equation: 1/[(1/-74cm)-(1/37cm)]. This gave me: -24.667. Then I redid my magnification equation: -(-24.667)/(37). This gave me .667 for my magnification. Then when multiplied by the height i got .4 cm.
Actually, that's correct. (For some reason, I thought you meant it was wrong.)
 
yay! thank you very much!
 

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