Magnitude and direction of the total force on the wire

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The problem involves a stiff wire bent at a right angle, with one section along the z-axis and the other along the line y=2x in the xy-plane. A current flows through the wire in a uniform magnetic field, and the task is to determine the magnitude and direction of the total force on the wire.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the force on each section of the wire separately and then add them together. Some participants question the method of vector addition and the angles used in the calculations.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes attempts to clarify the vector nature of forces and the correct angles to use. Some participants have offered insights into the vector addition process, while others have expressed confusion regarding the magnetic field's direction and its implications for the calculations.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of an answer key that provides different results from the original poster's calculations, leading to questions about the methodology and assumptions made in the problem-solving process.

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Homework Statement


A stiff wire 50 cm (0.5 m) long is bent at a right angle in the middle. One section loes along the z axis and the other is along the line y=2x in the xy plane. A current of 20A flows in the wire -down the z-axis and out the line in the xy plane. The wire passes through a uniform magnetic field given by B=(0.318i)T determine the magnitude and direction of the total force on the wire.

Homework Equations


F = I l B sin(theta)
F = I lxB

The Attempt at a Solution



I tried solving the problem by finding the force on each section and adding them.

Along the z-axis the angle with the mag field would be 90, so I get the force to be 1.59N

In the xy-plane, the section lies on the line y=2x. So it makes a 27 degree angle with the mag field. So I get the force to be 0.72N.

After adding them I get the force F = 1.59 + 0.72 = 2.31N

Now I have an answer key that says the force F=2.13N and lies 41.8 degrees below negative y-axis.

How do I get these results? What am I doing wrong? Thanks for your time!
 
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Well, you're dealing with forces - i.e. vectors. Vector addition isn't quite as simple as you've made it..

Ah, and one other thing - I don't quite agree with you on your angle!
 


Sorry, it was a 63 degree angle I had.
 


sorry, can anyone walk me through this problem or hint at some steps i need to do this. why can't i simply use the equation f= I l b sin(theta) using the angles i found the wire to be.

Is when the mag field is given as B=(.318i)T mean that it is only in the x direction? Thats what i am thinking but I am confusing myself now. Thanks guys!
 


ok, i solved this, thanks!
 


I have a similar method. I tried it the exact way that you tried. Did you use any other equations?
 

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