Maintaining Voltage Stability with a Zener Diode

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The discussion revolves around the operation of Zener diodes, particularly their role in voltage regulation and the conditions under which they maintain a constant voltage across a load. Participants explore the behavior of Zener diodes when the input voltage is less than, equal to, or greater than the Zener voltage, raising questions about current flow and voltage drops in the circuit.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that Zener diodes do not conduct when the input voltage is less than the Zener voltage, leading to no current flow through the load.
  • Others argue that the Zener diode acts like an open switch when the input voltage is below the Zener voltage, creating confusion regarding its role in voltage regulation.
  • A participant describes a model of the Zener diode as an ideal diode in series with an ideal voltage source, suggesting that excess voltage is dropped across a series resistor when the input voltage exceeds the Zener voltage.
  • There is a discussion about the voltage across the load (RL) in different scenarios, with calculations provided for various input voltages and the resulting voltage drops across the series resistor (Rs) and the load.
  • Some participants challenge the assumption that the voltage across the load remains constant, indicating that it varies depending on the input voltage and the configuration of the circuit.
  • A later reply emphasizes that the voltage across the load will be regulated to the Zener voltage only if the input voltage is maintained above a certain threshold.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the behavior of Zener diodes under varying input voltages, with no consensus reached on the conditions for current flow and voltage regulation. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of these conditions on the effectiveness of Zener diodes as voltage regulators.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific circuit parameters and calculations, but there are limitations in the assumptions made about the behavior of the Zener diode and the circuit configuration. The discussion does not resolve the mathematical steps involved in analyzing the circuit.

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How do Zener diode keep voltage constant if input voltage is less than Zener voltage
 
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asitiaf said:
How do Zener diode keep voltage constant if input voltage is less than Zener voltage

It can't.
 
I'm rather confused about Zener diode.
Can someone explain in detail about it.
As per my opinion when the input voltage is less than Zener diode, the diode acts like an open switch and no current flow through the circuit. But while I'm using it as a voltage regulator, we connect the load across Zener and then let the Zener act like an open switch, the circuit is completed through the load and current will flow. So this is creating a contradiction. Please clarify. The more I'm trying to know, the more I'm getting confused.
 
The zener conducts when the applied voltage exceeds the zener voltage. Usually there is a series resistance "upstream" of the zener and load, so that resistor drops the "excess" voltage.

If you want a crude model of the zener that you can analyze for the basic behavior, think of it as an ideal diode in series with an ideal voltage source, where the potential of the voltage source is the zener voltage.

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I understand that excess voltage will be dropped across Rs, when input voltage is greater than Zener voltage.
But I'm asking will there be any current through RL, if input voltage is less than Zener voltage.
Give reasons for the answer.
 
asitiaf said:
I understand that excess voltage will be dropped across Rs, when input voltage is greater than Zener voltage.
But I'm asking will there be any current through RL, if input voltage is less than Zener voltage.
Give reasons for the answer.

Well, the circuit is simple enough. You should be able to analyze it and draw the conclusion. If the input voltage is less than the zener voltage, will the diode be conducting or not?
 
The diode will not be conducting if input voltage is less than diode voltage.
Vin = (RL+RS)*I
Voltage across Rs = Rs*I
Suppose, first case
Vz = 5V
Vin = 4V
Rs = 2ohm
RL = 6ohm
Now,
I = 0.5 A
Voltage across Rs = 0.5*2 = 1V
And voltage across RL = 0.5*6 = 3V

Second case,
Vin = 5V
Rest all same.
Now
Voltage across RL = 5V because of the Zener diode
But what will be voltage drop across Rs?
Third case
Vin = 6V
Rest all same
Now
Voltage across RL = 5V
And voltage drop across Rs = 1V

This concludes me that voltage across RL remains 3V in first case and 5V in second and third case.
What type of voltage regulator this Zener diode is, if voltage across load keeps varying.
I am sorry for asking fundamental doubts.
 
asitiaf said:
The diode will not be conducting if input voltage is less than diode voltage.
Vin = (RL+RS)*I
Voltage across Rs = Rs*I
Suppose, first case
Vz = 5V
Vin = 4V
Rs = 2ohm
RL = 6ohm
Now,
I = 0.5 A
Voltage across Rs = 0.5*2 = 1V
And voltage across RL = 0.5*6 = 3V
Okay.
Second case,
Vin = 5V
Rest all same.
Now
Voltage across RL = 5V because of the Zener diode
But what will be voltage drop across Rs?
No, that's not true. Rs and RL form a voltage divider, so the voltage across RL will be less than 5V.

The input voltage must exceed some minimum threshold voltage before the zener can begin to participate in the action.
Third case
Vin = 6V
Rest all same
Now
Voltage across RL = 5V
And voltage drop across Rs = 1V
Nope again. The voltage divider situation still exists for the Vin = 6V case.
This concludes me that voltage across RL remains 3V in first case and 5V in second and third case.
What type of voltage regulator this Zener diode is, if voltage across load keeps varying.
I am sorry for asking fundamental doubts.

The voltage across the load will be regulated to Vz provided that Vin is maintained higher than a certain threshold voltage.
 
Thanks a lot for clarification.
 

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