Maintenance-Free Shine: Choosing the Right Metal for Auto Emblems

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around selecting a metallic material for auto emblems that maintains a polished shine without requiring maintenance. Participants explore various materials and their properties in relation to environmental exposure, particularly focusing on durability and aesthetic retention.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest nickel-chrome as a viable option for its shine and durability.
  • Concerns about the cost of chrome plating are raised, with one participant noting that it can be affordable if one shops around.
  • German silver (nickel silver) is proposed by others, highlighting its use in clarinet keys and its ability to maintain shine in various conditions.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of environmental factors, such as pH and chloride content, which can affect the longevity of chrome and nickel-chrome finishes.
  • Stainless steel, particularly grades like AL-6XN and 254SMO, is mentioned as a strong candidate for environments with chlorides due to its corrosion resistance.
  • Historical references are made to the use of nickel-silver in classic automobiles, suggesting its aesthetic and functional appeal.
  • Participants share personal anecdotes about their experiences with different materials and their performance over time.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on a single best material, as participants present multiple competing views on the suitability of nickel-chrome, german silver, and various grades of stainless steel. The discussion remains unresolved regarding which material is definitively the best choice for auto emblems.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that metals will oxidize in air, particularly in moist conditions, and that chrome plating is a one-way process. There are also mentions of the potential for peeling in nickel-silver if edges are exposed, indicating that durability may vary based on application and environment.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in automotive design, materials science, or those looking for durable finishes for metalwork may find this discussion relevant.

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Which metallic material will have a maintenance free shine when polished? I want to machine auto emblems so I'm looking for a material that does not go dull when expose to the elements.

Thanks!
 
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For my money, good ol' nickel-chrome would be the choice.
 
is it an expensive process?
 
We jut had some spindles chromed for about $10 a piece. You have to shop around a bit, but it is not an expensive process.
 
I'd vote for german silver (or nickel silver). There's not really any silver in it. It's what most clarinet keys are made of, for example. Anything that keeps its shine in the presence of spit should work OK.
 
david90 said:
Which metallic material will have a maintenance free shine when polished? I want to machine auto emblems so I'm looking for a material that does not go dull when expose to the elements.

Thanks!
What is the environment? pH and chloride/NaCl content can undermine chrome or Ni-chrome if sufficient iron is present.

Metals will ultimately oxidize in air, particularly moist air. Chromium forms a protective oxide and that's what gives stainless steels their shiny appearance. Chrome plating is oneway.

Perhaps one of the best stainless steels for an environment with chlorides, is Allegheny-Ludlum's, AL-6X (AL-6XN) and a similar one 254SMO. Both have 6% Mo.

http://www.alleghenytechnologies.com/ludlum/pages/products/xq/asp/P.40/qx/product.html

http://www.oceanint.com/content3/materials/6moly.asp
 
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Good points, TVP45 and Astro. Since David specified 'auto emblems', I assumed a normal road environment. One should never assume. I'm ashamed to admit that after 30+ years as a locksmith, I didn't realize that there's no real silver in 'nickel-silver'. That's what most keys are coated with (over brass). I didn't mention it because I thought that the (non-existent) silver content would make it too expensive. It does have a tendency to peel if an edge becomes exposed, but so does chrome.
 
The trim work on the pre-war Hispano-Suizas were solid nickel-silver
as was the radiator on one of the Bugattis (now there's a comeback for the people that think radiators have to be flat black). One of the interesting things about aging is how much completely useless information I know so well and yet I can't remember the day of the week.
 
Well, you might be ancient, but look on the bright side... Integral is the sum of all ages on PF. I'm sure that there's something in my great great great grandfather's journals about having a beer with him once.
 
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I'm not that ancient - I just burned the candle at both ends for too darn many decades.
 
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TVP45 said:
I just burned the candle at both ends for too darn many decades.

Slacker! Mine was lit in the middle as well. :-p
 
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what about good ol' stainless, perhaps one of the better grades. The trim onmy 57 Chev has a lot of stainless, been good for years

Stay Hep
Greg
 

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