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The discussion revolves around the major fields of physics and the reliability of Wikipedia as a resource for understanding these fields. Participants explore various sources for information on physics, including professional organizations and Wikipedia, while expressing differing opinions on the accuracy and completeness of the information available.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest using Wikipedia to learn about the major fields of physics, while others express skepticism about its reliability.
  • A participant highlights the importance of consulting professional organizations like the APS for a more comprehensive understanding of physics fields.
  • There is a discussion about the differences between the information presented on Wikipedia and that from professional organizations, with some arguing that Wikipedia oversimplifies or omits important details.
  • Some participants acknowledge that while Wikipedia can provide a quick overview, it may lead to incomplete understanding due to its lack of depth.
  • One participant mentions that the material on Wikipedia can be convoluted, particularly in complex areas like quantum physics, making it less accessible for beginners.
  • Another participant points out that the divisions of the Institute of Physics (IoP) are similar to those listed on Wikipedia, suggesting some level of agreement on the categorization of physics fields.
  • There are concerns about the presence of less credible discussions in other forums, particularly regarding relativity, which some participants find problematic.
  • A participant expresses a desire for professionals to contribute to Wikipedia to enhance the accuracy and completeness of its content.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the reliability of Wikipedia as a resource for learning about physics. While some find it useful for a quick overview, others argue it is often inaccurate or incomplete. The discussion reflects multiple competing views on the best sources for understanding the major fields of physics.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that Wikipedia articles may lack depth and can be misleading for those unfamiliar with the subject matter. There are references to specific organizations and their divisions, indicating that the completeness of information may depend on the source consulted.

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That just blew my mind. And I skipped ahead to the "applied physics" part, so I still missed a whole bunch.

I feel like a kid in a candy store. What branch should I go to? Where is my destiny hiding?
 
haha...

u should have used the index
and gone to
2.2Major fields in physics

lol!
 
This is why I wouldn't trust using Wikipedia for something like this.

I would strongly suggest that if anyone wants to have a good idea of the different field of studies in physics, that one goes to one of the physics professional organizations, and then look at the different divisions that is listed. This is as clear as anything one can find regarding the areas of physics that physicists work in.

Check the APS website and look under the drop box of the different divisions under the APS wing. You'll see that there is a lot more there than what you find in the Wikipedia page, and it is a lot more descriptive if you follow the links.

http://www.aps.org/units/index.cfm

Zz [Still scarry that people use Wikipedia for such things]
 
I noticed the link to

http://www.physicsmathforums.com/

What's the relation between that forum and this one? There seem to be more cranks at that forum (check the Relativity area; that always brings out the cranks.)
 
Daverz said:
check the Relativity area; that always brings out the cranks

A look at the thread titles was enough for me. It looks almost as bad as sci.physics.relativity on Usenet. I say "almost" because s.p.r, being unmoderated, has a huge amount of name-calling and personal attacks. I hope the moderators at physicsmathforums at least suppress that kind of stuff.
 
Yeah, sci.physics.relativity is a real tragedy. There's no relativity discussed there; it was taken over by the cranks, and they are a nasty, nasty bunch. (Actually I think its purpose was to drain away some of the cranks from sci.physics.) This is about the best public forum I've seen for relativity.

By the way, the material on physics I've seen on Wikepaedia has been pretty good. I haven't noticed any obvious funny business, although it's possible that something subtle may have passed by me.
 
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Daverz said:
By the way, the material on physics I've seen on Wikepaedia has been pretty good. I haven't noticed any obvious funny business, although it's possible that something subtle may have passed by me.

Oh please! Don't get me started!

Zz.
 
ZapperZ said:
Oh please! Don't get me started!

Well, I admit I haven't looked at a lot of it, except for some pages on some technical aspects of GR and Riemannian geometry.
 
  • #10
Wikipedia's physics topics are...convoluted, to say the least. Everything that's apparently supposed to be explaining quantum physics in particular, draws on more advanced mathematics to explain itself - which makes it useless to anyone who doesn't already know it all.
 
  • #11
I see nothing wrong, or overly complicated, with that Wikipedia article.
 
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J77 said:
I see nothing wrong, or overly complicated, with that Wikipedia article.

So what you're telling me is that when you look at that Wikipedia entry, and then you look at all the division of the APS, you see no differences whatsoever?

Ooooookaaaayy.

Zz.
 
  • #13
But when I look at the IoP divisions, I see:

Optics and Photonics
Atomic Molecular Optical and Plasma Physics
Condensed MAtter and Material Physics
Nuclear and Particle Physics
Applied Physics and Technology

which is very similar to the Wikipedia list...

http://www.iop.org/Our_Activities/Groups_and_Divisions/Divisions/index.html
 
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  • #14
And that is why I always give the example of the APS website, because (i) it is the LARGEST physics professional organization in the world and (ii) all the other major physics organizations in the rest of the world have affiliations with the APS. It does mean that the divisions of the APS includes the broadest coverage of the various subfields of physics.

And oh, if you look at the European Physical Society, you'd see A LOT more divisions.

http://www.eps.org/divisions.html

My point? People who don't know any better and read that Wikipedia article would think that that is all there is.

Zz.
 
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  • #15
I agree that wiki is sometiimes far from accurate and can be cliquey or crackpottish...

However, if you're someone having a quick look into what physics is all about - those main fields stand true.
 
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im flabbagasted!

i stand corrected!
 
  • #17
J77 said:
I agree that wiki is sometiimes far from accurate and can be cliquey or crackpottish...

However, if you're someone having a quick look into what physics is all about - those main fields stand true.

They are true and incomplete, and that has always been the problem for many instances where people only get bits and pieces of information. They get an incomplete information, but they are not aware that they're getting an incomplete information.

Zz.
 
  • #18
well is there anyway for any pro's to help wiki and "complete" the info as much as possible.
because I'm quite sure that many people in general, nowadays, depend on it... n if i hadn't found this site, i guess i will be depending on other sources like wikipedia which is pretty inaccurate.ty,
confused
 

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