Major quake Bougainville PNG ---- NOW

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The discussion centers around a major earthquake that occurred near Bougainville, Papua New Guinea, with a preliminary magnitude reported as M8.0. Participants explore various aspects of the earthquake, including its depth, potential impacts, and historical context, as well as related seismic phenomena.

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Main Points Raised

  • Initial reports indicated a magnitude of M8.0, later revised down to M7.9, with a depth of approximately 154 km, which some participants note is quite deep.
  • Participants express curiosity about the shaking experienced in nearby locations, particularly Panguna and Arawa, and question the presence of accelerometers in local mines to measure peak ground acceleration.
  • One participant mentions that the earthquake's depth may have affected the duration and intensity of shaking compared to shallower events.
  • There is a discussion about the potential for tsunami warnings, with one participant noting that an alert was issued but later canceled due to the absence of significant wave generation.
  • Comparisons are made to past earthquakes, such as the M6.3 quake in Christchurch, NZ, and the Great Tohoku earthquake, highlighting the variability in peak ground acceleration based on depth and other factors.
  • Historical context is provided regarding the Panguna mine, with one participant stating that there are currently no operating mines on Bougainville and sharing anecdotal reports of landslides and structural damage without fatalities.
  • Another participant shares personal experiences as an anthropologist in Bougainville, discussing the historical significance of the Panguna mine in relation to local conflicts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of viewpoints regarding the earthquake's characteristics and impacts, with no consensus reached on the specifics of the shaking experienced or the implications of the earthquake's depth. The discussion includes both technical analysis and historical reflections, indicating a mix of agreement on certain facts while remaining unresolved on others.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the complexity of factors influencing ground motion, including fault type and ground conditions, which remain unresolved in the discussion. Additionally, the historical context of the Panguna mine and its impact on local communities is acknowledged but not fully explored.

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170122 M8.0, PNG.JPG
M 8.0 40km W of Panguna, Papua New Guinea
2017-01-22 04:30:24 (UTC)
153.8 km deep
 
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Astronuc said:
153.8 km depth - very deep
StevieTNZ said:

yeah, that meant the max'ing out of my seismo didn't last as long as it would have for a shallower event

Astronuc said:
  • Panguna, Papua New Guinea (I wonder how much shaking they had?)

even at around 150+ km from the event, the shaking would be intense ... many major mining projects on BougainvilleDave
 
An earthquake at 154 km is quite deep. Note that this earthquake was 140 km east of the Planet Deep, 29,988 feet (9,140 m), the deepest point in the New Britain Trench, Solomon Sea.

The Planet Deep in the Solomon Sea was found by the German survey vessel SMS Planet in 1912. There was another eponymous 'Planet' Deep for a while in the Philippine Sea, but later survey vessels found deeper points nearby in the Philippine Trench.

The SMS Planet was scuttled at Yap Is, 7th Oct 1914 to avoid capture by the Japanese in WW1. The Yap Trench is only 35 km from Yap Island. It seems that there was some significant attraction between the SMS Planet and deep trenches.
 
I'm wondering what the peak ground acceleration was. I wonder if they have any accelerometers in place at any of the mines.
 
Astronuc said:
I'm wondering what the peak ground acceleration was. I wonder if they have any accelerometers in place at any of the mines.
looks like it got up around 80% of g

2017-01 Mw7.9 Bougainville PGA.jpg
 
raw seismogram screenshot off my system, just before it started to overwrite the previous line

170122  UT M 8.0 Bougainville, PNG zhi.gif
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170122.042702.zhi.psn.gif
cheers
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Oops, I mean wow! Is the tsunami warning still active? Or has there been one. ##0.8 \,g## sounded a lot.
 
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fresh_42 said:
Oops, I mean wow! Is the tsunami warning still active? Or has there been one

there was an alert put out, but was canceled after it was found that there were no significant waves generated

fresh_42 said:
0.8 g sounded a lot.

pretty significant, but by no means the largest
exceeding 1g happens periodically with larger events, M6 and up ... lots of factors come into play, type of fault motion, ground type
to name a couple.
The M 6.3 quake that wrecked Christchurch, NZ in Feb. 2011 had a peak ground accel. of 220.3% g pretty much above the focus.
there was a soft ground location some 10 km to the north ( just east of the city centre) that hit 188.7% g

pretty serious recordings for a moderate event

Dave
 
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davenn said:
The M 6.3 quake that wrecked Christchurch, NZ in Feb. 2011 had a peak ground accel. of 220.3% g pretty much above the focus.
there was a soft ground location some 10 km to the north ( just east of the city centre) that hit 188.7% g
On the other hand, that moderate quake was shallow, at a depth of 5 km (3.1 mi).

The Great Tohoku earthquake of March 2011 had PGA of ~3.0 g
More on PGA - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peak_ground_acceleration
 
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Astronuc said:
On the other hand, that moderate quake was shallow, at a depth of 5 km (3.1 mi).

indeed ... makes a big difference
another in the list of the many factors that affect ground motion :smile:
 
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Astronuc, there are no operating mines on Bougainville at this time (nor since the late 1980s). I have reports from a few places along the west coast -- landslides, some houses knocked down, but so far no reports of fatalities. Also, the place Panguna hardly exists anymore. It references the copper mine there, which is no longer in operation.
 
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Mono Kakata said:
there are no operating mines on Bougainville at this time (nor since the late 1980s).

I didn't realize that

it made for some interesting history reading
 
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davenn - yes, it does. It's a complex and sad tale. I worked as an anthropologist on Bougainville (west central, among the people called Nagovisi) in the late 1960s and into the early 1970s. At that time, the Panguna mine was in operation, and although it wasn't the only cause of the long and deadly war of secession, it certainly played a major role. I was last there in 2001, after the fighting died down.
 

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