Make Water Behave Like In Space -- Video

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The discussion revolves around a video demonstrating how to make water behave as it would in space, with participants exploring the necessary height for achieving a free fall time of 10 seconds. The conversation includes calculations, skepticism about the video's authenticity, and considerations of air resistance and other factors affecting the experiment.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the height needed for a 10-second free fall, prompting others to provide a link to a calculator suggesting approximately 180 meters.
  • Another participant expresses skepticism about the video's accuracy, noting that the principle may be sound but there are too many apparent issues.
  • Concerns are raised regarding air resistance, with one participant stating that the water would not experience zero gravity and that the mass of the device significantly affects the required height.
  • Some participants argue that the behavior of the water in the video appears artificial, likening it to being suspended on a string.
  • There is mention of alternative methods to achieve longer periods of apparent weightlessness, such as using evacuated towers or suborbital rockets.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views regarding the video's validity and the calculations for achieving free fall. There is no consensus on the accuracy of the video or the necessary height for free fall.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that air resistance is a significant factor that could alter the calculations, and the discussion includes various assumptions about the setup and conditions of the experiment.

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Hi,

just came across a video on CNN showing how to make water behave like it would in space:
<link to video deleted>
My question about that video is:
what height do i need to get a free fall time of 10 sec?

best regards
 
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You would need one seriously tall building. After a short google search I can tell you that there is only one building in the USA that would be tall enough. Nothing comes even close, if you are in Europe. I guess you will want to rent a helicopter then :).

You can find the actual number from one of the four kinematic equations, used to describe bodies moving with constant velocity or acceleration. Namely this one:

x=x0+v0t+½⋅at2,

where: x- position after time t, x0-initial position, v0- initial speed, t- time, a- acceleration.

Plug in the values for the variables and you have your answer. You have all the information you need (or can google for it). Let me know if you need more tips.

Although this is neglecting air resistance, so in the real world you would need less.
 
Newtonfalls said:
ah ok thx. i thought about 300 meters or so
You should check the specifics of this or other calculators for a more accurate prediction for your setup. For example, this one assumes air resistance equivalent to a skydiver, which would be higher than for your more compact device. And the actual mass of your device has a pretty strong influence as well. Changing mass from 10kg to 100kg alters the distance by dozens of metres.
 
BTW, I am very skeptical of that video. Too many things seem wrong.
Though the principle is sound.
 
The box appears to be foam plastic, so the air resistance/weight would be significant. The water would not experience 0 g.
EDIT: Here's another from the same folks <link to video deleted>
:rolleyes:
 
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That one look even more faked. :)
It behaves like it's attached to a string.
 
nasu said:
That one look even more faked. :)
It behaves like it's attached to a string.
Totally.
Between 00:37 and 00:47 it's not even pointing in the direction it's moving. Just as it would if it were suspended on a string.

Busted.

airplane.jpg
 
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DaveC426913 said:
Changing mass from 10kg to 100kg alters the distance by dozens of metres.
Which tells you that air resistance is not negligible - so the inside would not be a zero-g environment. It should work fine for a second or maybe two, but for more you want evacuated towers (up to ~8 seconds if they shoot the stuff up first). Even longer zero-g periods are possible with airplanes (~25 seconds), suborbital rockets (minutes) and finally orbital rockets (decades++).
 
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Newtonfalls said:
just came across a video on CNN showing how to make water behave like it would in space:
You did not come across this on CNN.

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