Making an Armature from scratch

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The discussion revolves around the construction of an armature from scratch, with participants exploring the components and considerations involved in building a small electric motor. The conversation includes aspects of electrical engineering, practical applications, and conceptual clarifications regarding motor design.

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  • One participant seeks guidance on the parts and estimated costs for making an armature, indicating a lack of prior equipment.
  • Another participant clarifies that an armature is typically the rotating part of a motor or generator and suggests that understanding the stator is also important.
  • Some participants share personal experiences of building small motors using everyday materials, emphasizing the variety of approaches available.
  • There is a suggestion to start with making an electromagnet to grasp the basics of winding and electromagnetic fields before progressing to more complex components like motors.
  • Discussions arise about the definitions of armature, rotor, and stator, with some participants noting ambiguities and differing interpretations based on AC and DC machines.
  • One participant mentions that the rotor in an automotive alternator carries DC and questions whether it can be classified as an armature, highlighting the complexity of terminology in electrical engineering.
  • Links to DIY resources are provided for constructing small motors, with emphasis on practical applications for educational purposes.

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Participants exhibit a mix of agreement and disagreement regarding the definitions and roles of armatures, rotors, and stators, with no consensus reached on the terminology. The discussion remains unresolved on certain technical distinctions.

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Participants express uncertainty about the definitions of armature and rotor, indicating that these terms may not be universally agreed upon. The conversation also reflects varying levels of experience and knowledge among participants, which may influence their perspectives.

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This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in electrical engineering, DIY projects involving motors, or those seeking to understand the basic principles of electromagnetism and motor construction.

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Making an Armature from scratch.
Im new to electrical engineering and wanted to make an Armature from scratch, if anyone knows the parts or an estimated cost of the item that would be appreciated. Thank you.
 
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Armature usually means the rotating part of a dynamo or motor or generator. ( Although it's possible to do it inside out.)

To be useful, the armature needs to be matched with a stator (the part that doesn't rotate.) What size and type of stator do you have? Usually, there is a nameplate on the stator. A photo of that nameplate would be helpful.
 
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Currently I do not have any sort of equipment including a stator, but I shall look into how to get one. Thanks
 
We made electrical motors as a project in High School.

I made mine out of Bic pens wound with copper wire. (Note: do not use Bic pens - or any kind of soft plastic - as the core of your winding coils!)

I was impressed when my academically-inclined (ex)-girlfriend produced her own tiny electric motor made out of paper clips. It was no bigger than a deck of cards!Moral of the story: your options are nigh-unlimited. It can be as large and as costly or as small and cheap as you desire.
 
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FreddieAzoth said:
Currently I do not have any sort of equipment including a stator, but I shall look into how to get one. Thanks
OK. It might be better to describe your project as building a motor. Forget the words armature and stator.

Are you thinking of a small DC motor that serves only to demonstrate the principle,
or do you want a big motor powerful enough to drive big machines?

If you want the small motor, this link describes how to do it using items in your house.

https://www.instructables.com/5-Minute-DIY-Motor/
 
Yes I am thinking of a small motor, and thanks for the link.
 
For simplicity consider making an electromagnet first then progress to solenoids, electric motors, armatures, rotors and stators. A simple electromagnet helps you learn basics of winding and directing EM (electromagnetic) fields. You can salvage parts from old appliances, phones, toys and other projects.
Cost = price of battery.

Wind insulated wire such as copper wire covered with plastic around a soft iron cylinder, called the core. A large nail, bolt or old tool of the correct material works.
Strip the insulation from the ends of the wire. Hold the bare ends to a small DC battery.

Do the ends of the core attract small metal objects such as a paper clip or iron filings?

Once successful, you can add refinements such as switches, a circuit board, and battery pack. Experiment with adding more windings in different patterns, adding more batteries in series or in parallel and gauge the effects on the EM field you created by how it attracts small ferrous metal objects.

Once you master winding electromagnets, you will understand the basics of making motors.
 
anorlunda said:
Armature usually means the rotating part of a dynamo or motor or generator.
I think we need some distinctions between AC and DC machines here. Certainly in my own experience with 3 phase power, the armature is on the stator while the DC field is on the rotor.
 
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I'm not sure the definition of armature is nailed down as well as some terms are. As a rule, it is considered necessary to move to be called an armature, and have conductor(s) carrying current. But, we generally don't consider the rotor in an automotive alternator an armature and I cannot see why not. It carries DC while a Wikipedia article claims the conductors must carry AC to be considered an armature. The stator in an automotive alternator is not considered the field for more obvious reasons since it is the source of electrical power we are generating. The rotor is what performs the field function in the automotive alternator.
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Now, all that being said, I seem to recall the part that is attached to the clapper on an old fashioned electric bell that is attracted by the electromagnet is called an armature. So, technically, the part that moves with contacts on a relay could be called an armature.
 
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anorlunda said:
OK. It might be better to describe your project as building a motor. Forget the words armature and stator.

Are you thinking of a small DC motor that serves only to demonstrate the principle,
or do you want a big motor powerful enough to drive big machines?

If you want the small motor, this link describes how to do it using items in your house.

https://www.instructables.com/5-Minute-DIY-Motor/
I have used version of this one in school for pupils from about 10 years up with great success. It is built on a little wooden baseboard and uses enamelled wire. . Notice the correct way to scrape the enamel off the wire to form the commutator. The pupils also make electric bells and a steady-hand game on the same baseboard, which has many wood screw holes for various purposes.
 
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For rotating electrical machines, I would suggest that the terms "rotor" and "stator" are less prone to ambiguity. This describes the component in terms of its motion (or lack of motion).
 
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