Malta's Underwater "Cart Tracks": Rewriting Prehistory?

[wolram]

Andre, mentioned floods in another thread, my interest has been kindled by a
program on tv about Malta and under water ,"cart tracks", that may date
human civilization 1000s of years older than is previously thought, giving
some weight to a massive flood event in pre history, what are your thoughts ?

 

[Lapin Dormant]

you mean like the biblical Red Sea stuff? or other events?

 

[ray b]

we had an ice age
once the ice melted about 10 k years ago
the sea level came up 400 or so feet

don't know about carts that far back

 

[wolram]

we had an ice age
once the ice melted about 10 k years ago
the sea level came up 400 or so feet

don't know about carts that far back

I should have said ruts or parallel indentation resembling cart tracks, there
are several on Malta, some under water, if the last major flood was 10k yrs
ago then these ruts must have been made well before the date given for the
ancient construction on the island.

 

[matthyaouw]

Any "massive flood event" would most likely bury or destroy cart tracks in soft sediment.

Can you provide a link to any information on these ruts?

 

[Andre]

Amice, Sorry to be late to appear in your thread. The cart tracks could be interesting as could be the Cuban city.. However sea level rises may have been gradual (or not) and the flooding stories may have other roots.

About those megafloods, a sensitive favorite creationism hobby since there were many many flood stories from around the world, so the creationistic great flood seem to get a little support indeed.

But it's no evidence at all for a simultaneous world flood. That simply could not and has not happened. Instead there were numerous local catastrophes, tsunamis, perhaps catastrophic ice dam breaches in North America, the Lake Missoula floodings and perhaps the http://cgrg.geog.uvic.ca/abstracts/ClarkePaleohydraulicsDuring.html apart from the http://www.nationalgeographic.com/blacksea/ax/frame.html.

However it could also have been massive Storegga slide tsunamis or prolongued dramatic increase in rainfall as is shown in the ice cores.

 

[wolram]

http://www.angelfire.com/ar/magrosalibarchaeo/

Here is one, there are many, and Andre good bud, with this one i am more
interested if Malta was populated pre flood, may be another yawn, but do we
understand ?

 

[matthyaouw]

The story of why the cart-ruts today lie underwater is explained by Malta’s geology. During the last five millenia, the eastern shores have subsided by about 1.5 metres, so the sunken cart-ruts once rested on dry land.

http://www.maltatoday.com.mt/2001/1028/opinion.html

 

[wolram]

Ah, so simple, thanks guys.

 

[matthyaouw]

I double checked with my sedimentology teacher who has done a lot of work in Malta and knows the area well. He tells me that to the best of his knowledge Malta is not subsiding. He's reasonably familiar with the cart ruts, and says that sea level rise within the last 2000 years accounts for their submergence.