Manipulation of Cartesian Tensors

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The discussion revolves around the manipulation of Cartesian tensors in the context of a particle rotating around a point, specifically focusing on deriving the expression for acceleration related to angular velocity and position vector. The original poster seeks assistance in proving a specific formula for acceleration.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to derive the acceleration from the velocity expression and questions the next steps in the process. Daniel introduces a differentiation approach involving angular velocity and position. Another participant suggests a potential typo in the original question regarding the sign in the acceleration formula.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, exploring different approaches to differentiate the velocity expression. There is a suggestion that the negative sign in the acceleration formula may be incorrect, indicating a productive direction in the discussion.

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The participants are required to use Cartesian tensor methods, and there is an indication of potential confusion regarding the signs in the formulas presented.

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I have a question relating to a particle rotating around a point with velocity [tex]u = \Omega \times r[/tex], where [tex]\Omega[/tex] is the angular velocity and r is the position relative to the pivot point.

I need to prove that the acceleration is given by,

[tex]a = -\frac{1}{2} \nabla [(\Omega \times r)^2][/tex]

I figured it should follow from the fact that,

[tex]a = \frac{du}{dt} = \frac{\partial u}{\partial t} + u \cdot \nabla u = u \cdot \nabla u[/tex]

But I can't work out where to go from there. We are supposed to use Cartesian tensor methods to work it out.

Could anyone help me out?
 
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[tex]\vec{a}=\frac{d\vec{v}}{dt}=\frac{d}{dt}\left(\vec{\Omega}\times \vec{r}\right) =\frac{d\vec{\Omega}}{dt}\times\vec{r} +\vec{\Omega}\times\frac{d\vec{r}}{dt}[/tex]

Daniel.
 
[tex]\frac{d\vec{\Omega}}{dt}=\left(\vec{\Omega}\times \vec{r}\cdot\nabla\right)\vec{\Omega}[/tex]

[tex]\frac{d\vec{\Omega}}{dt}\times \vec{r}=\left[\left(\vec{\Omega}\times \vec{r}\cdot\nabla\right)\vec{\Omega}\right]\times \vec{r}= \frac{1}{2}\nabla\left[\left(\vec{\Omega}\times\vec{r}\right)\cdot\left(\vec{\Omega}\times\vec{r}\right)\right] -\vec{\Omega}\times\left(\vec{\Omega}\times\vec{r}\cdot\nabla\right)\vec{r}[/tex]

In the end i get the plus sign.

Daniel.
 
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Thanks, Daniel.

Yeah, I suspect the negative sign was a typo on the question sheet, especially considering the identity,

[tex]\vec u \cdot \nabla \vec u = \frac{1}{2} \nabla (\vec u \cdot \vec u) + (\nabla \times \vec u) \times \vec u[/tex]
 

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