Manipulation of partial differential operators.

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The problem involves the manipulation of partial differential operators, specifically relating to the functions u(x,y) and y(x,z). The task is to show a relationship between the partial derivatives of these functions with respect to z while holding x constant.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to use the total differential and the chain rule to express the relationship between the derivatives. They raise a question about deriving the partial derivative with respect to z.
  • Another participant provides a chain rule expression and questions why a specific term vanishes, indicating a deeper inquiry into the assumptions of the chain rule.
  • One participant expresses confusion regarding the chain rule for partial derivatives, suggesting a potential misunderstanding of the application of the rule.

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Participants are working under the assumption that the functions involved are continuous and differentiable. There may be constraints related to the specific conditions under which the derivatives are taken, particularly the constant nature of x.

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Homework Statement



Given that u(x,y) and y(x,z) are both continuous, differentiable functions show that

(\frac{\partial u}{\partial z})x=(\frac{\partial u}{\partial y})x(\frac{\partial y}{\partial z})x

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The Attempt at a Solution



I tried to write out the total differential for du and dy and then holding x constant so dx=0 I rearranged the equations to get

\frac{du}{dz}=(\frac{\partial u}{\partial y})x(\frac{\partial y}{\partial z})x

I then tried to get \frac{du}{dz} in another form but couldn't see a way of getting (\frac{\partial u}{\partial z})x from what I have.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!
 
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The chain rule gives
<br /> \left( \frac{\partial u}{\partial z} \right)_x<br /> = \left( \frac{\partial u}{\partial x} \right)_y<br /> \left( \frac{\partial x}{\partial z} \right)_x<br /> + \left( \frac{\partial u}{\partial y} \right)_x<br /> \left( \frac{\partial y}{\partial z} \right)_x<br />
So why is it that the first term on the right always vanishes?
 
Sorry mis read that!
 
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I'm sorry I don't know. I thought that the chain rule for partial derivatives was;

\frac{du}{dz} = (\frac{\partial u}{\partial x})y(\frac{dx}{dz}) + (\frac{\partial u}{\partial y})x(\frac{dy}{dz})
 

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