Marginal PDFs for Joint PDF of X and Y

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The discussion revolves around finding the expected value of the sum of two random variables, X and Y, given their joint probability density function (PDF). The joint PDF is expressed as λ²e⁻λ(x+y) for non-negative values of x and y.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of marginal PDFs from the joint PDF and the implications of division by zero encountered during integration. There are attempts to clarify the integration process and the handling of limits.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on the integration process and questioning the original poster's assumptions. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the necessity of finding marginal PDFs to solve the problem.

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Participants note the importance of showing work step-by-step to facilitate assistance. There is mention of the potential confusion surrounding the appearance of zero in the denominator during integration.

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Homework Statement



Suppose that ∫X,Y(x,y) = λ2e-λ(x+y), 0 ≤ x, 0 ≤ y

Find E(X + Y)

Homework Equations



E(X + Y) = E(X) + E(Y)

The Attempt at a Solution



Since the expected vale of a sum is the sum of the expected values, I attempted to find the marginal pdfs of the joint pdf. But when calculating the integral for the marginal probability of X, pX(x) = ∫λ2e-λ(x+y) dy from 0 to ∞, the result is an undefined statement, division by zero.
 
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countzander said:

Homework Statement



Suppose that ∫X,Y(x,y) = λ2e-λ(x+y), 0 ≤ x, 0 ≤ y

Find E(X + Y)

Homework Equations



E(X + Y) = E(X) + E(Y)

The Attempt at a Solution



Since the expected vale of a sum is the sum of the expected values, I attempted to find the marginal pdfs of the joint pdf. But when calculating the integral for the marginal probability of X, pX(x) = ∫λ2e-λ(x+y) dy from 0 to ∞, the result is an undefined statement, division by zero.

Remember that an integral from 0 to ∞ is a limit of the integral from 0 to U as U → ∞. Just do the integral from 0 to U first, then take the limit. Do it properly, and do it carefully.
 
That's what I did. As I said in the original post, the limit is 0. But because the 0 appears in the denominator, the integral is undefined.

Does anyone know where the problem is?
 
countzander said:
That's what I did. As I said in the original post, the limit is 0. But because the 0 appears in the denominator, the integral is undefined.
I don't think so. Keep in mind that e-λ(x + y) = e-λx * e-λy, and that you are integrating with respect to y.

Also, both ex and e-x are positive for all real numbers x, so I think you might be confused about 0 appearing in the denominator.
 
countzander said:
That's what I did. As I said in the original post, the limit is 0. But because the 0 appears in the denominator, the integral is undefined.

Does anyone know where the problem is?

You need to show us your work, step-by-step. Otherwise, there is no way we can help you.
 
"Since the expected vale of a sum is the sum of the expected values, I attempted to find the marginal pdfs of the joint pdf. "

There is no need to do that.
 
statdad said:
"Since the expected vale of a sum is the sum of the expected values, I attempted to find the marginal pdfs of the joint pdf. "

There is no need to do that.

Agreed. But he ought to be ABLE to do it if he wants to pass the course.
 

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