Mass and spring on an inclined plane

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The discussion revolves around a mass-spring system on an inclined plane, specifically focusing on the relationship between the period of oscillation and the equations derived from the system's dynamics. Participants are exploring how to connect the period of motion to the equations presented in the problem statement.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to relate the period of oscillation to the equation derived in part b, expressing confusion over the connection to simple harmonic motion. Some participants suggest deriving the period from the differential equation associated with the motion, while others question the assumptions made in the setup.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing guidance on how to approach the derivation of the period from the equations. However, there is no explicit consensus on the best method to relate the period to the equation in part b, and multiple interpretations are being explored.

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There is a noted concern regarding the clarity of the relationship between the equations and the period of oscillation, as well as a request for solutions to part B, which indicates a potential lack of information or understanding in that area.

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Homework Statement


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I got part A and B but in part c , but how to relate period to the equation in part b which is not similar to the cosine function of S.H.M . So i don't know how to obtain period from the equation

PS: In part b ,I use mgsin(theta)=-kx and then divided by m

Homework Equations

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Simple harmonic motion:
-amplitude*(omega)^2 cos(omega(t)+phase angle).

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I directly use (2pi/T)=sqrt(k/m) to find period but i don't how to relate to the equation given in part b
 

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Note: you can use the Σ sign on the menu to get access to symbols for omega, pi, etc. Also you can use Latex to set the formulae out neatly.

Q3. This is about the derivation of the formula ##\frac {1} {T} = \frac {1} {2\pi} \sqrt {\frac {k} {m} } ## that you mention.
You can look it up in your notes or on the web.
Essentially, you can show that ## x = A cos(ωt +φ) ## is a solution to the differential equation in part b. Then substituting this solution and equating its second derivative let's you get the T formula from comparing the expressions for the amplitude. (This is all mathematical jiggery pokery, which is why we just remember the resultant formula. It may be worth understanding, because SHM is common in other contexts, which all lead to the same sort of differential eqn.)These are the formulae you quote, written in Latex. If you copy them and put two hash signs in front and at the end, they'll show up properly and you can preview them.

\frac {1} {T} = \frac {1} {2\pi} \sqrt {\frac {k} {m} }

Aω^2cos(ω(t)+θ)
 
Thanks a lot!
 
Can u please tell me the solution of part B.
 
Max Agarwal said:
Can u please tell me the solution of part B.
That's effectively a new question. Please post it as a new thread, filling in the template. In particular, be sure to post an attempt.
 

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