Mastering Basic Symbolic Logic: Understanding Negations Intuitively

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around understanding negations in basic symbolic logic, particularly focusing on intuitive comprehension rather than reliance on truth tables. Participants explore the negation of compound statements, including conjunctions and exclusive disjunctions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in intuitively grasping negations, specifically questioning how to understand the negation of the statement "John is fat and John is blonde."
  • Another participant explains that if it is not true that John is both fat and blonde, it implies that at least one of the statements must be false, supporting this with examples.
  • A participant acknowledges understanding after the explanation provided, indicating a clearer grasp of the concept.
  • One participant raises a concern about negating exclusive or statements, questioning how to handle the "not both" condition and whether negated statements are converses of the original statements.
  • Another participant responds by stating that the negation of exclusive or can be expressed logically as the equality of the two statements, providing a logical equivalence.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the basic principles of negation in symbolic logic, but there is some uncertainty regarding the negation of exclusive or statements and whether negated statements are converses of the originals. The discussion remains unresolved on these specific points.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of comfort with negations, indicating a need for further exploration of specific cases, particularly with exclusive or statements. There is also a reliance on intuitive understanding versus formal methods like truth tables.

TrevE
Basic symbolic logic, as it stands, is very straightforward to me, but I don't seem to understand it verbosely, i.e. without constructing truth tables. Actually it's only the negation of statements that I don't seem to grasp intuitively.

For instance, the negation of

John is fat and John is blonde

is simply

John is not fat or John is not blonde

but I don't get why it is so, without truth tables. How can I go around with working with negations intuitively? Should I just find out what negates to what and keep that in mind when working with statements?
 
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If it is not true that John is both fat and blonde, that's the same thing as saying that he's not fat or not blonde. For example if John is thin and blonde, then he's not fat and blonde. If he's fat and black-haired, then he's not fat and blonde. If he's thin and black haired, then he's not fat and blonde. If it is not the case that two things are both true, then at least one of the things must be false (when dealing with logical statements).
 
Thank you for presenting it clearly; I think I get the gist of it now. Cheers!
 
OK one last thing. I think I'm running into trouble with negating exclusive or statements. So let's say John is fat or John is blonde, but not both. I don't see how I can negate "not both" because after which it looks like "not both" is insignificant in negation. Say we do away with "but not both" and it becomes inclusive, then it follows that the negation is "John is not fat and blonde", and that's what I sort of came up with with exclusive or, which leads me to asking, are negated statements and original statements converses to each other, or is that not necessarily a requirement? Or did I just negate the above exclusive or statement wrongly?

Thanks in advance.
 
not(a xor b) is just a = b in a logical sense. Exclusive or is true iff the two are different, so its negation is true iff they are the same.

[tex]\overline{a\oplus b}\Longleftrightarrow a=b[/tex]

"not (John is fat or John is blonde, but not both)" <--> "(John is fat and blonde) or (John is neither fat nor blonde)"
 
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How logical.Heh, many thanks, CRG!
 

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