Mastering Variation of Parameters in Differential Equations

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The discussion revolves around finding a one-parameter family of solutions to a differential equation involving a substitution that leads to a Bernoulli equation. Participants are exploring the algebraic manipulations required to simplify the equation and clarify the steps involved in the substitution process.

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  • Participants discuss the substitution \( y = \frac{1}{t} + u \) and its implications for transforming the original differential equation. There are attempts to derive a separable form and questions about algebraic simplifications leading to a Bernoulli equation.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on algebraic checks and suggesting substitutions to reach a linear form. Some participants express confusion about the steps and seek clarification on the method, indicating a collaborative effort to understand the problem better.

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Participants mention the challenges of understanding variation of parameters and the need for further clarification from their professor. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity of the topic and the necessity of careful algebraic manipulation.

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I need to find a 1 parameter family of solutions to:

[tex]\frac{dy}{dt}=-\frac{1}{t^{2}} - \frac{y}{t}+y^{2}[/tex]

By making the substitution:
[tex]y=\frac{1}{t}+u[/tex]
and then reducing it to a Bernoulli equation in u.

I first took the derivative of the substitution.
[tex]\frac{dy}{dt}=\frac{1}{t^{2}}+\frac{du}{dt}[/tex]

Then substituted:
[tex]\frac{1}{t^{2}}+\frac{du}{dt}=-\frac{1}{t^{2}} - \frac{\frac{1}{t}+u}{t}+(\frac{1}{t}+u)^{2}[/tex]

After some reduction I eventually got to:
[tex]\frac{1}{t^{2}}+\frac{du}{dt}=\frac{u+u^{2}t}{t}-1[/tex]
I heard we were supposed to get something separable out of this, but that's not what I have here. What do I do next?
 
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Lancelot59 said:
I need to find a 1 parameter family of solutions to:

[tex]\frac{dy}{dt}=-\frac{1}{t^{2}} - \frac{y}{t}+y^{2}[/tex]

By making the substitution:
[tex]y=\frac{1}{t}+u[/tex]
and then reducing it to a Bernoulli equation in u.

I first took the derivative of the substitution.
[tex]\frac{dy}{dt}=\frac{1}{t^{2}}+\frac{du}{dt}[/tex]

The derivative of 1/t is -1/t2. If you are careful with your algebra it should indeed simplify to a Bernoulli equation.
 
LCKurtz said:
The derivative of 1/t is -1/t2. If you are careful with your algebra it should indeed simplify to a Bernoulli equation.
I now have:
[tex]u^{2}+\frac{u}{t}+\frac{1}{t^2}-\frac{du}{dt}=1[/tex]
 
Lancelot59 said:
I now have:
[tex]u^{2}+\frac{u}{t}+\frac{1}{t^2}-\frac{du}{dt}=1[/tex]

Close, but check your algebra. I got

[tex]u' -\frac 1 t u = u^2[/tex]

Those 1/t2 terms should cancel out. I'm guessing it has something to do with that extra 1 you have too.
 
The 1 comes from reducing
[tex]\frac{y}{t}[/tex]

[tex]\frac{\frac{1}{t}+u}{t}[/tex]
 
Lancelot59 said:
The 1 comes from reducing
[tex]\frac{y}{t}[/tex]

[tex]\frac{\frac{1}{t}+u}{t}[/tex]

Like I said before, the non-cancelled 1/t2 and the extraneous 1 are probably related. If you are now taking differential equations, you should be able to correctly simplify this expression. You don't get a 1.
 
I keep getting it for some reason :(

Nevermind, I'm stupid. Lemme keep working.

So now I have the right form. Now what? I'm reading the book and it isn't making sense to me right now.
 
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What part are you at now?

(I solved this along with you)
 
LCKurtz said:
[tex]u' -\frac 1 t u = u^2[/tex]

.

Lancelot59 said:
I keep getting it for some reason :(

So now I have the right form. Now what? I'm reading the book and it isn't making sense to me right now.

If you have the above equation, multiply both sides by u-2 and make the substitution w = u-1.
 
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LCKurtz said:
If you have the above equation, multiply both sides by u-2 and make the substitution w = u-1.

So I then end up with
[tex]\frac{w}{t}-w\frac{du}{dt}=1[/tex]
 
  • #11
I think you need to check that again. Also, using the substitution, what is w'?
 
  • #13
I entered it backwards, my mistake.
Doing the substitution:
[tex]w=u^{-1}[/tex]
[tex]\frac{dw}{dt}=\frac{1}{u^{2}}\frac{du}{dt}[/tex]
[tex]u^{2}w'=\frac{du}{dt}[/tex]

[tex]w'u-\frac{w}{t}=1[/tex]
I'll start going through those notes now.
 
  • #14
Hmm... still not quite right.

Starting with
[tex]u' -\frac 1 t u = u^2[/tex]
Let [itex]w=u^{-1}[/itex], then [itex]w'=-u^{-2} u'[/itex]. This serves as the motivation for the next step: we want to get a linear differential equation in terms of w, so only w and w' should be present. To do so, let's multiply both sides of the equation by [itex]-u^{-2}[/itex], in doing so we will get w' on the left, which is very desirable.

[tex]-u^{-2}u' + \frac 1 t u^{-1} = -1[/tex]

Now we can make some nice substitutions:

[tex]w' + \frac 1 t w = -1[/tex]

You should be able to take it from here.
 
  • #15
process91 said:
Hmm... still not quite right.

Starting with
[tex]u' -\frac 1 t u = u^2[/tex]
Let [itex]w=u^{-1}[/itex], then [itex]w'=-u^{-2} u'[/itex]. This serves as the motivation for the next step: we want to get a linear differential equation in terms of w, so only w and w' should be present. To do so, let's multiply both sides of the equation by [itex]-u^{-2}[/itex], in doing so we will get w' on the left, which is very desirable.

[tex]-u^{-2}u' + \frac 1 t u^{-1} = -1[/tex]

Now we can make some nice substitutions:

[tex]w' + \frac 1 t w = -1[/tex]

You should be able to take it from here.
I really should, but I can't. I'm not having the easiest time with this class.
 
  • #16
What is the trouble you're having from the last step? Have you covered how to solve a first-order linear homogeneous differential equation?
 
  • #17
To clarify some possible confusion, at this point you would simply solve for w. This will give you an equation for w in terms of x, and then you can substitute [itex]u^{-1}=w[/itex].
 
  • #18
We have covered that. I'm trying to figure out variation of parameters, since it isn't seperable. I'll have a chance to talk to my professor tomorrow, and I'll come back if I need more help. Thank you both for all the help you've given me.
 

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