Material Science vs Condensed Matter PhD & Admission Req

In summary, the different admission process for CM and MS&E are explained, as well as the factors that contribute to the success of an admission. It is recommended to focus on gaining research experience and authorship on publications if you want to apply to CM experiment programs, or to aim high and apply to top ranking schools if you want to switch to materials science.
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Hi all again, I started a post earlier and it was buried somewhere by now. I really need more input and information and hope you all can help.

How are admission process different, CM vs MS&E? CM belongs to Physics department while MS&E is usually on the engineering side.

I got my Physics degree from a big public school with good reputation in physics. However, I wasn't able to get into the competitive programs for CM Experiment (those 17 listed on US News). I sort of understand what I screwed up and now I am trying to correct it. I have received many advice from various people, including people from physicsforum, my professors, admission committee, my PI and etc...

It basically comes down to 3 options...
1.) Find opportunity and work hard to gain authorship on a publication, then apply again for CM programs (Fall, 2016) (advice from one of my PI.)
2.) Re-apply again but don't go for top 20, basically apply anywhere between 20~50th ranking school this Fall, 2015. (advice from another one of my PI.)
3.) Don't go into Condensed Matter, switch field to Material Science. Get more research experience in the engineering and applied physics field and then apply Fall, 2016.

(My GPA is 3.6 upper div and 3.55 cumulative, pretty much 50/50 A's and B's evenly distributed. I tend to get A's in solid state/CM courses, E&M, and Quantum.)
My Quant GRE is 90th percentile at 165/170, and Physics GRE at 83th percentile at 880/990
2 academic research experience and 1 internship in material characterization industry.

I love learning more about solid state theories, but when it comes to research I think I prefer application side of solid state theories. The problem with me is that I didn't have an opportunity to work in a solid state experimental lab. I worked for a theorist and I wasn't able to gain a lot of hands on experience.

Is material science more difficult for physics major to get into or is it easier? What are the major factors that contribute to the successful admission to good programs? Can I submit my physics GRE to Engineering department?

My ultimate goal in science is to go into industry. It may seem counter-intuitive to go for PhD if I just want to work in industry. Well I really love the subject, I just want to learn more. I am aware of the fact that academic jobs are way too competitive for me and also it isn't exactly my lifestyle.

So Which advice should I listen to? Go to a lower ranked CM school or try to aim high by working harder? Or completely switch field to Material Science? (Perhaps MS&E is a better fit for my career goal)

Thank you very much for helping me out.
 
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So a lot of the detail of your questions are beyond me, but I can answer some of the simpler aspects of your questions.

Physics majors are generally well received applicants to materials science programs - especially if you have focussed on condensed matter in your undergraduate studies. I would say that the physics degree won't hurt your chances at all. What may hurt your chances is the fact that you were rejected to condensed matter programs previously. Make sure to avoid this fact in your application process. Not only does it raise questions about your abilities, but perhaps more importantly is shows that materials science is your second choice. This is probably a deal breaker for a lot of schools because they are looking for only the most passionate people. As far as the physics subject GRE goes, no materials science programs will require that or anything like it. 83rd percentile is pretty good so if you chose to send it anyway it would probably neither help nor hurt you. Regardless of what you choose to do, materials science is a great field that is almost identical to CM. I think that most people interested in one will be interested in the other.
 
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Thank you gsmith for the advice and information, it certainly helps a lot.
I know I probably had asked too many questions.
 

FAQ: Material Science vs Condensed Matter PhD & Admission Req

1. What is the difference between Material Science and Condensed Matter PhD?

Material Science focuses on the study of the properties and applications of materials, while Condensed Matter Physics focuses on the study of the physical properties of solids and liquids. In a Material Science PhD program, you may have the option to specialize in a specific type of material, such as metals, polymers, or ceramics, while a Condensed Matter PhD program will typically have a heavier focus on theoretical and experimental physics.

2. What are the admission requirements for a Material Science or Condensed Matter PhD program?

Admission requirements for both types of PhD programs typically include a bachelor's degree in a related field, such as physics, engineering, or chemistry, as well as strong academic performance, letters of recommendation, and GRE scores. Some programs may also require a research proposal or prior research experience in the field.

3. Can I switch between Material Science and Condensed Matter during my PhD program?

It is possible to switch between Material Science and Condensed Matter during your PhD program, but it will depend on the specific program and your individual research interests. It may require additional coursework or a change in your research focus, so it is important to discuss this option with your advisor and the program director before making any changes.

4. What career opportunities are available with a Material Science or Condensed Matter PhD?

Graduates with a PhD in Material Science or Condensed Matter have a wide range of career opportunities in industries such as electronics, aerospace, energy, and biotechnology. They may work as research scientists, materials engineers, or in academia as professors or researchers. They may also pursue careers in government or national labs.

5. Are there any specific skills or background knowledge required for a Material Science or Condensed Matter PhD?

A strong foundation in mathematics, physics, and chemistry is essential for success in a Material Science or Condensed Matter PhD program. It is also helpful to have prior research experience, especially in the specific field you are interested in studying. Additionally, skills in data analysis, experimental design, and critical thinking are important for conducting research in these fields.

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