Material selection for food grade application

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the selection of food-grade materials for constructing a hanging rack system for meats in a commercial kitchen setting. Participants explore various types of stainless steel, particularly 304 and 316 grades, and their suitability for food safety and hygiene standards.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the appropriateness of using threaded stainless steel piping for a meat hanging system.
  • Another suggests that a search for stainless steels used in food processing could yield useful information.
  • Some participants mention that 304 and 316 stainless steels are generally good choices unless specific chemical cleaning requirements exist.
  • One participant notes that 316L stainless steel is preferred for welded applications due to its lower carbon content.
  • Concerns are raised about whether the project qualifies as "food processing" and the importance of consulting local health inspectors regarding material suitability.
  • A participant shares that their company uses 316L for food and beverage grade products, citing its resistance to cleaning agents and smooth surface finish as benefits.
  • Another participant acknowledges the need to consider health inspection requirements for commercial kitchens when selecting materials.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the necessity of adhering to food safety standards, with some emphasizing the importance of consulting health inspectors while others downplay the complexity of the project. No consensus is reached on the best material choice, as different grades of stainless steel are discussed without a definitive agreement.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the potential for different requirements based on local health regulations and the specific use case of the hanging system, indicating that the discussion may be limited by these factors.

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Hello folks,

Got a project I've been tasked with completing. We have a small meat locker, approximately 4' x 6', and I need to design and build an above-head rack system to hang hams and other meats on. (approximately 50 to 60 lbs each)
Can anyone offer a good starting point for a food grade material? I was looking at some threaded stainless steel piping from McMaster, but I don't know if that is appropriate or not.
I haven't worked up any of the stress calcs or displacement yet. That'll come after I figure out a suitable material. It will also need to bolt to the tile walls of the locker via a flange, hence the initial pipe idea.

Thanks,
Mac
 
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A simple search on ' stainless steels for use in food processing ' returns large amounts of useful information .
 
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Nidum said:
A simple search on ' stainless steels for use in food processing ' returns large amounts of useful information .

Why yes, thank you for that generic response.
 
Do you know which food standard(s) you are building to? Can make a difference.
We make food processing equipment and generally 304 & 316 stainless are pretty good unless you have some specific requirement for chemical cleaning or something.
 
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GuyTom said:
Do you know which food standard(s) you are building to? Can make a difference.
We make food processing equipment and generally 304 & 316 stainless are pretty good unless you have some specific requirement for chemical cleaning or something.

No, this is very quick, low cost build. Identifying this as "food processing" is probably a stretch as well. It's really just a hanging system for meats that are still wrapped. Ham's, salamis, etc. I just want to cover my bases as a precaution.
I'm sure that I am over complicating this...because I usually do. I'll look into 304 & 316, thanks.
 
We use a lot of 316 for salty process water. Racks, tanks etc. We make medical devices so similar requirements exist.

Standard 316 is OK for machined parts but we use 316L if it is going to be welded. 316L has a lower carbon content.
 
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MacLaddy said:
No, this is very quick, low cost build. Identifying this as "food processing" is probably a stretch as well. It's really just a hanging system for meats that are still wrapped.
Is this for a commercial operation? Do you get inspected by your city's Health Inspector like restaurants and food processing facilities do? If so, I would talk with them to see what they are looking for in terms of materials that are suitable for this application.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_health_officer
 
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Hi, our company uses 316L for all its Food and Bev Grade (Hygienic) products.
The two main reasons for this, as far as I understand, is that it can withstand the typical cleaning agents using in CIP (Clean in Place) processes, and that the surface finish is smooth enough to minimize the build up of bacteria and other nasties on the surface.

While certainly not an exciting read, I did find this link fairly interesting http://www.worldstainless.org/Files.../PDF/Euro_Inox/StSt_in_FoodandBeverage_EN.pdf
 
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I apologize for going MIA on this topic. I've been dealing with sweaty concrete this week...

Bandit127 said:
We use a lot of 316 for salty process water. Racks, tanks etc. We make medical devices so similar requirements exist.

Standard 316 is OK for machined parts but we use 316L if it is going to be welded. 316L has a lower carbon content.

Thanks. It likely will be welded.
berkeman said:
Is this for a commercial operation? Do you get inspected by your city's Health Inspector like restaurants and food processing facilities do? If so, I would talk with them to see what they are looking for in terms of materials that are suitable for this application.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_health_officer

It is for a commercial kitchen in a hotel, so inspections are fairly routine. Talking to a health inspector is good advice. I'll probably do a quick design with 316L and send it over to one of their inspectors for a once-over.

Tolklein said:
Hi, our company uses 316L for all its Food and Bev Grade (Hygienic) products.
The two main reasons for this, as far as I understand, is that it can withstand the typical cleaning agents using in CIP (Clean in Place) processes, and that the surface finish is smooth enough to minimize the build up of bacteria and other nasties on the surface.

While certainly not an exciting read, I did find this link fairly interesting http://www.worldstainless.org/Files.../PDF/Euro_Inox/StSt_in_FoodandBeverage_EN.pdf

Thanks for the link. I'll look over it tonight.
 
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