Math Based or Conceptual Based Physics Textbook?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the choice between conceptual physics textbooks and those that are math-based, particularly in the context of a high school freshman's preparation for studying physics and mathematics in college. Participants explore the implications of mathematical readiness on learning physics concepts.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to learn physics but lacks knowledge in algebra II, trigonometry, and calculus, questioning whether to start with a conceptual physics book or wait until they are more mathematically prepared.
  • Another participant suggests that doing both is a viable option, recommending starting with a conceptual physics book and transitioning to a calculus-based book once the necessary math skills are acquired.
  • A third participant emphasizes that the main barrier is trigonometry rather than calculus, proposing that learning basic trigonometric functions could significantly expand the range of available physics resources.
  • A follow-up question seeks clarification on whether to wait for advanced math courses before tackling calculus-based physics or to start with a conceptual book first.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present differing views on the best approach to learning physics, with some advocating for starting with conceptual texts while others suggest a dual approach. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the optimal path forward.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the importance of mathematical knowledge in understanding physics, but there is uncertainty about the specific prerequisites needed for different types of physics textbooks.

Who May Find This Useful

High school students interested in pursuing physics or mathematics, educators advising students on curriculum choices, and individuals exploring the relationship between math skills and physics comprehension.

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I am a freshman in high school and I want to major in physics and probably mathematics in college. I would like to learn more physics and I think that math is a very important part in learning physics. However, I don't know algebra II, trigonometry, or calculus so I was wondering if I should read a conceptual physics book or if I should work my way up to calculus and then read a physics book that uses calculus. What would be the most beneficial for me?
 
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Why not do both? Go through a conceptual physics book now (such as Hewitt's "Conceptual Physics"), and then when you have enough math, do a calculus-based book (which is what you'll do in AP Physics C if your school has it).
 
Hewitt is a great book. The big barrier right now would be trig, not calc. If you can learn a little basic trig (just sine, cosine, and tangent, which you could do in an afternoon), you'll have a much wider selection of books.
 
jtbell, are you suggesting that I wait until I get to more advanced math courses in school and then do a calculus-based physics book, or are you saying that I should do I conceptual physics book now and once I finished that book I go on to learn more higher mathematics?
 

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