Math books: group theory and topology

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The discussion revolves around recommendations for mathematics books focused on group theory, modules, rings, and topology, specifically tailored for theoretical physicists. Participants seek resources that balance rigor with accessibility, avoiding overly abstract or pure mathematics examples.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests recommendations for algebra and topology books suitable for physicists, expressing a preference for less emphasis on finite groups and pure math.
  • A math major recommends Pinter's "A Book of Abstract Algebra" for an overview and Jacobson's "Basic Algebra I" for a more rigorous understanding of algebra.
  • Another participant agrees on the suitability of Pinter for non-pure math readers and suggests Dummit and Foote as additional resources.
  • For topology, one participant mentions Patty's "Foundations of Topology" and Kasriel's "Undergraduate Topology," while also acknowledging Munkres and Mendelson as standard texts.
  • Another participant highlights Simmons' "An Introduction to Topology and Analysis" as a clear and conversational resource for topology.
  • A suggestion is made for Schwarz's "Topology for Physicists," though its quality is uncertain.
  • Artin's "Algebra" is recommended for thorough coverage at an upper division undergraduate level, with Munkres' topology text noted for its introduction to algebraic topology.
  • A participant shares a link to a resource that reviews a core set of books and literature for navigating math and physics from junior level to graduate school, emphasizing clarity and historical context.

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Participants generally agree on the usefulness of certain texts for the intended audience, but there are multiple competing recommendations and no consensus on a single best resource.

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Some recommendations depend on personal preferences for style and depth, and there is no resolution on the effectiveness of the suggested books for the specific needs of theoretical physicists.

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This discussion may be useful for theoretical physicists seeking to enhance their understanding of algebra and topology through accessible mathematical texts.

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Just want to ask for recommendations for good math books on

1) groups, modules, rings - all the basic algebra stuff but for a physicist

2) topological spaces, compactness, ...

I need books for a theoretical physicist to read up on these topics so that I could study, say, algebraic topology next. Now the books needn't be too basic but being a physicist I'm not a big fan of all the finite groups, pure math stuff, so the fewer examples with tiling and such the better.

Can anyone help? Math majors are more than welcome to comment.
 
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As a math major, I'd personally recommend the combination of Pinter's "A Book of Abstract Algebra" and Jacobson's "Basic Algebra I" for your algebra needs. Pinter is gentle and builds up motivation nicely (and is an overall pleasant read) while Jacobson develops the subject more rigorously and, in my opinion, more in-depth. In short, read Pinter for an overview and Jacobson for a thorough understanding. As a bonus, both are generally available for under $20.

As for Topology, I've had a decent time with Patty's "Foundations of Topology" alongside Kasriel's "Undergraduate Topology," but I think the standard recommendations are Munkres and Mendelson (which I also like, admittedly). I can't provide much help on the algebraic topology front, unfortunately.
 
I've also heard that the Pinter book is a good algebra book for non-pure math people. Dummit and Foote might also be good too.. I think. As for topology, I think "An Introduction to topology and analysis" by Simmons is really good. It's written for math students, but the exposition is very clear and conversational, it should be good for anyone
 
There actually is a book by Schwarz called "Topology for Physicists," but I have no idea how good it is.
 
I like Artin's Algebra very much for thorough coverage of the topics you mention at an upper division undergraduate level. Munkres Topology is at the same level for topology and includes a good introduction to algebraic topology.
 
In the post link below, I try to pull out the minimal set of math and physics ideas, backed up by the actual history, that underlie the knowledge needed to navigate from junior level math/physics through graduate school and beyond, including the current methods in theoretical physics.

[Included are texts/references on algebra, topology, geometory and topology for the theoretical physicist in an uploaded Word document].

I list and review a core set of the best, clearest books and literature to this end, often including what you should get from each book/article. I probably would have saved about a decade, and lots of money had I had a "syllabus" like this.

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=553988

Thanks,

A. Alaniz
 

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