Maths Question: Parag and Prajakta's Walking and Driving Speeds - Find the Ratio

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving the speeds of walking and driving, specifically focusing on the scenario where Parag arrives early at the railway station and walks part of the way home before being picked up by Prajakta. The objective is to determine the ratio of Parag's walking speed to Prajakta's driving speed based on the time saved during their journey home.

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  • Participants explore the implications of the time saved during the journey and question the origin of certain values, such as the "600" mentioned in the original post. They discuss the relationship between the distances walked and driven, and how these relate to the overall time saved.

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There is ongoing exploration of the problem, with participants providing insights into the time dynamics involved in the scenario. Some participants have offered interpretations of the time saved and its impact on the driving and walking speeds, while others are still seeking clarity on specific aspects of the problem.

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Participants are working under the constraints of the problem as presented, including the specific times and distances involved. There is a noted confusion regarding the conditions under which the ratios are defined, particularly in the second question about the ratios of a, b, and c.

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1. Parag arrives at Pimpri Railway station from office every day at 6:00 p.m.
where Prajakta picks him up in the car to take him home. One day he arrives
at Pimpri one hour early and starts walking towards home. On the way he
meets Prajakta and they return home together in the car. If they arrive the
home 10 minutes earlier then what is the ratio of Parag's walking speed to
Prajakta's driving speed?


Work done by me on this question:
Let distance from station to home= d metres
Driving speed=v1 m/s
Walking speed=v2 m/s
Time taken by car usually=d/v1
according question (if x is the distance traveled by walking),
d/v1={(d-x)/v2}+(x/v1)+600
On solving,
{(d-x)/v1}-{(d-x)/v2}=600
But I can't find the ratio??


2.If a/(b+c) = b/(a+c) = c/(a+b) and a+b+c is not 0 then find value of each
ratio.
Work done:
The answer given in my book is -1. But I don't think that a+b+c will not be
equal to zero in that case?




This is all I could do. Please don't give me answers like show me your work etc. If you know it tell me otherwise dont.
 
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For question one: If he walked a distance of d before getting picked up, then the car coming to pick him up didn't need to drive that distance d. It would have taken (presumably), the same time for the car to drive both ways, so it would have taken 5 minutes for the car to go that distance, since they got home a total of 10 minutes earlier (five minutes for the car to drive each way d meters)
 
Office_Shredder said:
For question one: If he walked a distance of d before getting picked up, then the car coming to pick him up didn't need to drive that distance d. It would have taken (presumably), the same time for the car to drive both ways, so it would have taken 5 minutes for the car to go that distance, since they got home a total of 10 minutes earlier (five minutes for the car to drive each way d meters)

Thanx a lot. But please can you let me out while I myself am thinking about this. Please let me have a solution. Thnak you very very much!
 
Where does that "600" come from? Since he arrived at the station 1 hour= 60 minutes earlier than usual but arrived at home 10 minutes earlier, the "walking and driving" time is 60-10= 50 minutes longer than the "driving only" time. In your terms,
\frac{d}{v_1}+ 50= \frac{d-x}{v_1}+ \frac{x}{v_2}
\frac{d}{v_1}+ 50= \frac{d}{v_1}- \frax{x}{v_1}+ \frac{x}{v_2}
\frac{x}{v_1}+ 50= \frac{x}{v_2}
Multiply both sides by v_1 and divide by x:
\frac{v_2}{v_1}= 1+ \frac{50v_1}{x}

Now use Office Shredder's point: Since the car arrived at home 10 minutes earlier than normal, it must have saved 5 minutes each way by not having to go that distance x:
\frac{x}{v_1}= 5
so
\frac{50v_1}{x}= \frac{50}{5}= 10[/itex]<br /> <br /> <br /> As for the second question:<br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> 2.If a/(b+c) = b/(a+c) = c/(a+b) and a+b+c is not 0 then find value of each<br /> ratio.<br /> Work done:<br /> The answer given in my book is -1. But I don&#039;t think that a+b+c will not be<br /> equal to zero in that case? </div> </div> </blockquote> You are exactly correct. If each of the ratio&#039;s is equal to -1, then, for example,<br /> \frac{a}{b+c}= -1<br /> so a= -b- c, a+ b+ c= 0. From<br /> \frac{a}{b+c}= \frac{c}{a+b}<br /> &quot;cross multiplying&quot; gives a^2+ ab= bc+ c^2<br /> and from <br /> \frac{a}{b+c}= \frac{b}{a+ c}<br /> we get a^2+ ac= b^2+ bc<br /> Subtracting ab- ac= c^2- b^2 or a(b-c)= (c-b)(c+b).<br /> <b>If b- c is not 0</b> we must have a= -(b+c) which would make each ratio -1, but that is exactly the &quot;forbidden&quot; case that a+ b+ c= 0. If b- c = 0, then, using the other equality, we get a= b= c, in which case each ratio is 1/2.
 
HallsofIvy said:
Where does that "600" come from? Since he arrived at the station 1 hour= 60 minutes earlier than usual but arrived at home 10 minutes earlier, the "walking and driving" time is 60-10= 50 minutes longer than the "driving only" time. In your terms,
\frac{d}{v_1}+ 50= \frac{d-x}{v_1}+ \frac{x}{v_2}
\frac{d}{v_1}+ 50= \frac{d}{v_1}- \frax{x}{v_1}+ \frac{x}{v_2}
\frac{x}{v_1}+ 50= \frac{x}{v_2}
Multiply both sides by v_1 and divide by x:
\frac{v_2}{v_1}= 1+ \frac{50v_1}{x}

Now use Office Shredder's point: Since the car arrived at home 10 minutes earlier than normal, it must have saved 5 minutes each way by not having to go that distance x:
\frac{x}{v_1}= 5
so
\frac{50v_1}{x}= \frac{50}{5}= 10[/itex]<br /> <br /> <br /> As for the second question:<br /> <br /> You are exactly correct. If each of the ratio&#039;s is equal to -1, then, for example,<br /> \frac{a}{b+c}= -1<br /> so a= -b- c, a+ b+ c= 0. From<br /> \frac{a}{b+c}= \frac{c}{a+b}<br /> &quot;cross multiplying&quot; gives a^2+ ab= bc+ c^2<br /> and from <br /> \frac{a}{b+c}= \frac{b}{a+ c}<br /> we get a^2+ ac= b^2+ bc<br /> Subtracting ab- ac= c^2- b^2 or a(b-c)= (c-b)(c+b).<br /> <b>If b- c is not 0</b> we must have a= -(b+c) which would make each ratio -1, but that is exactly the &quot;forbidden&quot; case that a+ b+ c= 0. If b- c = 0, then, using the other equality, we get a= b= c, in which case each ratio is 1/2.
<br /> <br /> I really can&#039;t find words to thank you. Thanks a lot!
 

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