Matrix Question: A*B=A (B is non-identity)

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The discussion centers on the relationship between two non-identity matrices A and B, where the equation A * B = A holds true. It is established that if such a matrix A exists for a given matrix B, then any scalar multiple k*A also satisfies the equation, indicating an infinite number of solutions for B. The conversation highlights the connection to eigenvalues and eigenvectors, emphasizing that the problem can be transformed into AB = B, allowing for the identification of all such B using eigenvalue techniques. The discussion concludes that aside from the trivial solution A=0, no solutions exist unless one is an eigenvalue of B.

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If two ℝeal valued, non-identity matrices A (dimension MxN) and B (dimension NxN)
satisfy the condition A * B = A
Is there a name for the relationship between B and A ?

For example for: A = <br /> \left( \begin{array}{cc}<br /> \frac{1}{3} &amp; \frac{2}{3} \end{array} \right), \quad B = \left( \begin{array}{cc}<br /> \frac{3}{5} &amp; \frac{2}{5} \\<br /> \frac{1}{5} &amp; \frac{4}{5} \end{array} \right) \quad A * B = \left( \begin{array}{cc}<br /> \frac{1}{3} &amp; \frac{2}{3} \end{array} \right)<br />

My Observations:
  • If such A exists for B, then for any real number k, k*A is also a solution for B
    since (k*A)*B = k*(A*B)=k*A
    implies, there will be infinite solutions for B.
    .
  • <br /> p\to+\infty{\left( \begin{array}{cc}<br /> \frac{3}{5} &amp; \frac{2}{5} \\<br /> \frac{1}{5} &amp; \frac{4}{5} \end{array} \right)}^p = \left( \begin{array}{cc}<br /> \frac{1}{3} &amp; \frac{2}{3} \\<br /> \frac{1}{3} &amp; \frac{2}{3} \end{array} \right)<br />

My Question: Given a matrix B, how do we find A such that A*B=A ?
 
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This looks a bit too much like homework for me to give a direct answer (now).

I can give a hint in the form of a question: How is this related to eigenvalues and eigenvectors?
 
Thank you very much for the hint. I swear this not my homework. I know I missed something very basic but didn't know which one.
 
I am hitting a wall. May I request another hint or two?
 
D_H gave a pretty good hint. I'll give you a little more.

First consider the problem AB=B. Given A you can easily find all such B using eigenthings.

You can transform AB=A into this form by taking the transpose of both sides.

Very good problem if you came up with it yourself.
 
And one more hint: Other than the trivial solution A=0, there are no solutions if one is not an eigenvalue of B.
 

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