Matrix Subspace question: Does B2x2 form a subspace of M2x2?

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The problem involves determining whether the set of all symmetric 2x2 matrices, denoted as B2x2, forms a subspace of the vector space of all 2x2 matrices, M2x2. The original poster presents the closure properties of addition and scalar multiplication as criteria for subspace verification.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to analyze the closure property of addition by questioning whether the sum of two symmetric matrices remains symmetric. Some participants express confusion regarding the implications of adding non-symmetric matrices and whether that affects the closure property.

Discussion Status

The discussion is exploring the properties of symmetric matrices in relation to vector space axioms. Participants are questioning the implications of symmetry in the context of addition and are seeking clarity on whether the closure property holds for B2x2.

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There is a focus on the definitions of symmetric matrices and the necessary conditions for a set to be considered a subspace. The original poster and participants are navigating the implications of matrix addition and scalar multiplication without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Homework Statement


The set of all matrices A2x2 forms a vector space under the normal operations of matrix + and Scalar multiplication. Does the set B2x2 of all symmetric matrices form a subspace of M2x2? Explain.

Homework Equations


AT = A
Closure property of addition - If w and v are objects in A, then w+v are contained within A
Closure property of scalar multiplication - If K is any real number scalar and v is any object in A, then kv is also in A

The Attempt at a Solution


To be a subspace it must pass two axioms

1. B2x2 = [a,b;b,d] [a,b;b,d] + [e,f;g,h] = [a+e,b+f;b+g,d+h] I thought that this failed because it was not symmetric, but does it matter if the answer isn't symmetric only that its contained within A2x2

2. Scalar multiplication passes
 
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Um, if w is B it has the form [[w1,w2],[w2,w3]]. If v is in B it has the form [[v1,v2],[v2,v3]. Add them. I'm not sure what you are on about with addition.
 
Well my main question is, would B2x2 pass the closure property of addition because when you add another thing to it that's not symmetric it, it looses its symmetry. Would that matter.

So does it pass that axiom or not is what I'm asking.
 
OFFLINEX said:
Well my main question is, would B2x2 pass the closure property of addition because when you add another thing to it that's not symmetric it, it looses its symmetry. Would that matter.
It doesn't matter, since the things that are in B2x2 are symmetric matrices. One of the things you're checking to show closure under "vector" addition is whether adding two symmetric 2 x 2 matrices gives you a symmetric 2x2 matrix.
OFFLINEX said:
So does it pass that axiom or not is what I'm asking.
 

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