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The discussion revolves around the properties and interactions of matter and antimatter, specifically focusing on their annihilation, conversion to energy, and the implications of these processes in the context of physics. Participants explore theoretical aspects, conservation laws, and the nature of particles and antiparticles.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that combining 1 KG of matter with 1 KG of antimatter results in a significant energy release, questioning the nature of antimatter if it can be converted.
  • Others clarify that antiparticles share the same mass and spin as particles but differ in charge, emphasizing that annihilation occurs due to conservation laws, particularly electric charge.
  • A participant notes that when radiation is converted back to matter, it produces both a particle and its corresponding antiparticle to conserve charge.
  • Some argue that the annihilation of matter and antimatter is a consequence of their opposite charges, leading to the production of photons, which carry energy but have no charge.
  • Concerns are raised about the mathematical approach used in the discussion, with some participants suggesting that the calculations may be flawed or misinterpreted.
  • One participant questions the feasibility of converting antimatter directly into energy and then into normal matter, citing conservation laws that prevent such processes.
  • Another participant introduces the concept of specific forms of matter and antimatter, such as hydrogen and anti-hydrogen, and discusses the implications of their interactions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion features multiple competing views on the nature of matter and antimatter interactions, with no consensus reached on the interpretations of annihilation and conversion processes. Participants express differing opinions on the implications of conservation laws and the mathematical frameworks involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the mathematical calculations and the implications of conservation laws in particle interactions. There are references to quantum electrodynamics (QED) and conservation principles that remain unresolved within the discussion.

  • #31
Chroot, thanks for the explanation. I had convinced myself muon-antimuon couldn't be produced but you've shed the light right on it for me! Thanks for the clarification folks!
 
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  • #32
Does this sort of have something to do with a "Pair's Production"? I'm still in Physics 30, and we sort of learned something about this. I don't have my notes anywhere with me, but I'll explain what I remember by memory.

Annihilation: When matter and antimatter collide, matter is converted into energy. And then the next part, I seem to agree with Daniel about what he says that momentum is conserved.

Okay, say I have a high energy photon (ie. Gamma photon) and it strikes against a hard surface. Yes, both an electron and positron are created.

The Law Conservation of Charge in this case is that the existence of the negatively charged particle (an electron) from the collision of the gamma photon meant that there had to be another particle which was positively charged.

Law Conservation of Momentum (in this particle example):

- When matter and antimatter (electron and positron) collide, the total momentum before is zero.
- Yes, momentum has to be conserved, but in order for that to occur, two photons (agreeing with Daniel) must be produced which move in opposite directions, therefore, the total momentum of the photons is also zero!

Actually, I don't know if what I said has anything to do with it mainly because I'm still in high school... :-S
 
  • #33
Sorry, this is back to something Chroot said:

If you smash a gamma ray into a piece of metal, you can create a wide variety of pairs (e+, e- or u+, u- or p+, p-, etc.). Each has its own statistical probability of being created, but all valid reactions are possible, given enough energy

So just to clarify, if we use a high enough energy in our experiment we could, in theory, create an e+/e- OR mu+/mu- OR tau+/tau- pair from two photons? If so could we ever be certain of the outcome or do we base our theory on the expected value of a probability, that is - we don't know for sure that an e+/e- pair will be created on each attempt if we so wish.
 
  • #34
Howdy,

I'd like to know what happened at the beginning of the Universe then.
I'm under the impression that there was whole lots of matter and anti-matter at the time of the big bang, but there was a "slight" excess of what we call matter.

If there is such a thing as conservation of charge, then why was there an imbalance in the first place, and why can't we restore some of the imbalance?
 
  • #35
I'm under the impression that there was whole lots of matter and anti-matter at the time of the big bang, but there was a "slight" excess of what we call matter.
I don't think that is the general consensus. The general consensus - right now - is that there were equal amounts of antimatter and matter, but that symmetry is broken between the two - ie. antimatter is not exactly the same as matter, and for some reason, in our universe, decays a little more quickly. This is what leads to the imbalance. This, if I remember correctly, is borne out in a number of experiments which have illustrated broken symmetry, though results are not yet conclusive, since the effects observed do not fully account for the size of the imbalance.

Also, antimatter/matter imbalance is different from charge conservation. 1 proton + 1 antiproton -> 1 proton + 1 electron conserves charge, but still breaks the standard model.
 
  • #36
FZ+ said:
I don't think that is the general consensus. The general consensus - right now - is that there were equal amounts of antimatter and matter, but that symmetry is broken between the two - ie. antimatter is not exactly the same as matter, and for some reason, in our universe, decays a little more quickly. This is what leads to the imbalance. This, if I remember correctly, is borne out in a number of experiments which have illustrated broken symmetry, though results are not yet conclusive, since the effects observed do not fully account for the size of the imbalance.

Also, antimatter/matter imbalance is different from charge conservation. 1 proton + 1 antiproton -> 1 proton + 1 electron conserves charge, but still breaks the standard model.

I see. Thanks for clearing that up. :shy:
It's not that there was more antimatter, it just decays (into?) quicker.
And there might have been simply a symmetry imbalance, not a charge imbalance.
 
  • #37
I don't know enough about astro-physics, but after reading some stuff on this subject of anti-matter, it just came to me that if assuming Einstein's theory of space-time and his analogy of gravity to a trampoline (I would say blanket) and curved space...can't the universe be sitting on anti-matter and that is exactly what we feel as gravity.

Someone please set me straight. Thanks.
 

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