Max Induced Emf: Homework Statement & Equations

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The problem involves calculating the maximum induced electromotive force (emf) in a flat loop of wire situated in a magnetic field that decays over time. The loop has a specified area and number of turns, and the magnetic field is described by an exponential decay function.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the application of the formula for induced emf and the process of finding its maximum value. There are attempts to differentiate the expression for emf with respect to time to locate the maximum, leading to questions about the validity of using derivatives in this context.

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Some participants have provided insights regarding the behavior of the exponential function in relation to finding maxima, while others express confusion about the derivative approach. There appears to be an ongoing exploration of the mathematical reasoning behind the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note challenges in finding a maximum value for the induced emf through derivatives, leading to discussions about the nature of the exponential function and its implications for the problem.

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Homework Statement



A flat loop of wire of area 15.7 cm2 and 1.09 turns is perpendicular to a magnetic field whose magnitude decays in time according to B = 0.5 e−t/7. What is the maximum induced emf? Answer in units of V.

Homework Equations



[tex]\epsilon=[/tex] [tex]\Delta[/tex][tex]\Phi[/tex]B/[tex]\Delta[/tex]t


[tex]\epsilon=[/tex] - (dB/dt) N A Cos[tex]\theta[/tex]


The Attempt at a Solution




I have:

A = 15.7 X 10-4 m2

N = 1.09 turns

B = 0.5 e-t/7

Maximum [tex]\epsilon[/tex] = E max. = ??


I found E max. = - ( 1.09) * ( 15.7 X 10-4 ) * Cos(0) * d(0.5 e-t/7)/dt

= 1.22 X 10-4 e-t/7

Then i found the first deravative of induced emf in terms of time & got another equation.
Then i made that equation equal to zero to find value of time for max. [tex]\epsilon[/tex].
But there is no such value for time. Calculator says false everytime which is true.

I tried to take the second deravative and equalize to zero and again same paroblem occurred.

Soooo any help will be appreciated.
 
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Fazza3_uae said:
I found E max. = - ( 1.09) * ( 15.7 X 10-4 ) * Cos(0) * d(0.5 e-t/7)/dt

= 1.22 X 10-4 e-t/7
So what is the maximum value of E? More to the point, at what time is the above expression a maximum and what is that maximum value?
 
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Wow , thanks kuruman for the help , it is right , when time is zero i get a maximum emf E.

but i have a question ,,, can i find the maximum by deravatives and how and when to use ?

thx in advance for all who are helping us ... ^^
 
You cannot find the maximum by derivatives because the exponential function does not a maximum or minimum. It is either monotonically decreasing or increasing.
 
thanks kuruman for eplanation. I understood now why i couldn't find a maximum value when deriving the equation. thanks a lot man .
 

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