Max load on inclined interlayer of easel

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The discussion revolves around determining the maximum load that a red interlayer can support on an easel inclined at 4°, specifically focusing on the structural integrity of the interlayer made of polypropylene when subjected to significant weight from packs of 2500 kg each.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the load capacity of the red interlayer under an incline of 4° with a total potential load of 50000 kg from packs.
  • Another participant raises a concern about the consequences of support failure, questioning what would happen if the load were to fall.
  • A participant clarifies that the easel is certified for the load, but seeks to understand the maximum load the polypropylene interlayer can withstand without failure.
  • One response calculates the force on the easel and estimates that the red interlayer would need to resist approximately 3325 kg based on the distribution of weight from the packs.
  • A follow-up question asks how to determine if the interlayer can withstand the calculated force given its compressive strength of 0.8 MPa.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the maximum load the interlayer can support, as the discussion includes calculations and assumptions that remain unverified. There are differing views on the implications of potential failure and the necessary calculations to assess the interlayer's strength.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the handling of the load and the effects of dynamic forces during shipping or rough handling, which could exceed the calculated static load. Additionally, there is a lack of clarity on the specific properties of the interlayer and how they relate to the compressive strength in practical scenarios.

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how many pack the interlayer can support on an easel inclined
Hello,
I hope I'm in the right topic.
I search to know, how many pack the red interlayer on the drawing can support on an easel inclined of 4°.
One pack (blue in the drawing) = 2500kg
There can be max 20 pack of 2500 kg by side of the easel = 50000 kg
One pack measures : 3200x2250x140 mm
Interlayers are in polypro with section of 80x30 mm (see interlayer properties in attachment)
We have 4 interlayers for each pack.
Thank you in advance for your help.
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Welcome to the PF.

Yikes, that's heavy stuff! What happens if the supports fail? What does the load end up hitting when it falls?
 
Hello Berkeman, thanks for the reply.
The easel is in steel and it is certified for this load for the 2 sides.
The question is on the red interlayer, if it fails, the last end pack in blue will be damaged. We had cardboard interlayer and it happened.
I want to make sure that in polypro there will be no more problem and know the maximum number of packs that it will support.
 
If I understand the question you are asking for the total force on the Red interlayer, the easy answer is 19/20 (95%) of the force on the easel.

Force on easel = 50000kg × Sin(4°) = 50000 × 0.07 = 3500kg
3500kg × 0.95 = 3325kg force on pack 20 by the 19 packs to the left.

I hope this helps. I do not understand the table you included, maybe others here will have a better answer.

Remember that the forces are when the package is not moved. If it shipped or handled roughly the forces could be several times higher.

Cheers,
Tom
 
thanks for the reply.
If I understand well the interlayer must resist to 3325 kg.
How calculate if with the 0.8 MPa of compressive strength, the interlayer resist ?
 

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