Max/Min of xlnx^2: Getting Help w/Math Homework

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The discussion revolves around finding the maximum and minimum values of the function Y = xln(x^2). Participants are examining the derivative of the function and its implications for determining critical points.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to differentiate the function and are questioning the correctness of their derivative. There is discussion about setting the derivative equal to zero and concerns about the validity of the resulting equations.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided feedback on the derivative, suggesting simplifications and clarifications. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of setting the derivative to zero, with some guidance offered regarding the nature of logarithmic functions.

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Participants express uncertainty about their mathematical skills and the validity of their approaches, indicating a need for reassurance and clarification on logarithmic properties.

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Homework Statement



Please check my answer. I am weak at math.

Homework Equations



Y = xlnx^2

The Attempt at a Solution



Y' = (lnx^2) + (x)(2x/x^2)

For the max/min, I would just set Y' = 0 by trial and error and then do y", but I don't want to do that until I know y' is correct.

Please help =(
 
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939 said:

Homework Statement



Please check my answer. I am weak at math.

Homework Equations



Y = xlnx^2

The Attempt at a Solution



Y' = (lnx^2) + (x)(2x/x^2)

For the max/min, I would just set Y' = 0 by trial and error and then do y", but I don't want to do that until I know y' is correct.

Please help =(

Your Y' is OK. Solving the equation Y' = 0 should be easy, and does not need "trial and error". Hint: look at the form of Y'; simplify it as much as possible.

RGV
 
939 said:

Homework Statement



Please check my answer. I am weak at math.

Homework Equations



Y = xlnx^2

The Attempt at a Solution



Y' = (lnx^2) + (x)(2x/x^2)

For the max/min, I would just set Y' = 0 by trial and error and then do y", but I don't want to do that until I know y' is correct.

Please help =(

Looks ok so far if you mean x*ln(x^2). You could simplify the second term quite a bit.
 
Thanks for such quick anwers.

So I simplify y' a little bit and have:

y ' = (lnx^2) + (x)(2x/x^2)
y ' = (lnx^2) + (2x^2/x^2)
y ' = (2lnx) + (2x/x)
y = (2lnx) + (2)

But how can I set y ' = 0? 2lnx would have to be - 2, no? It would be invalid, wouldn't it? :-/
 
939 said:
Thanks for such quick anwers.

So I simplify y' a little bit and have:

y ' = (lnx^2) + (x)(2x/x^2)
y ' = (lnx^2) + (2x^2/x^2)
y ' = (2lnx) + (2x/x)
y = (2lnx) + (2)

But how can I set y ' = 0? 2lnx would have to be - 2, no? It would be invalid, wouldn't it? :-/

Not at all. Some numbers have negative logs. Think about that a bit more.
 
Dick said:
Not at all. Some numbers have negative logs. Think about that a bit more.

Got it. Thanks a lot for the help! =)
 

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