Max of Cont. Fxn: Answer & Analysis

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The discussion revolves around finding the maximum of the function defined as max{nte-nt: t in [0,1]}. Participants are analyzing the behavior of this continuous function and its critical points within the specified interval.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants examine the derivative of the function to find critical points and question the validity of their calculations. There is a focus on the implications of the critical points found and whether they lie within the defined interval. Some participants also consider the behavior of the function at the endpoints of the interval.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on each other's calculations and questioning assumptions about critical points. There is a recognition of the need to consider the endpoints of the interval, and some participants express uncertainty about their findings.

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There is a specific focus on the interval [0,1] for the variable t, which influences the relevance of the critical points identified. Participants are also considering the implications of the uniform norm in their analysis.

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Homework Statement


max{nte-nt: t in [0,1]} = ?


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The Attempt at a Solution



if f(t) = nte-nt

f '(t)= ne-nt - te-nt

= e-nt(n-t)

set equal to zero to get critical points:

0 = = e-nt(n-t) => two critical points: t1 = n and t2 = -1/n;

plugging the cp's back into the original equation, we get

f(t1) = n2/en2, which converges to 0 as n-> infy

f(t2) = -e which converges to -e for all n.

What am I doing wrong?
 
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Check your derivative again, especially the second factor.
 
Yep, ok

so f ' (t) = ne-nt - n2te-nt

and 0 = e-nt(n-n2t)

=> e-nt = 0 && n(n-t)=0 <=> t = n

so t= n is my critical point?

let tc = t = n,
Plugging that back into the original,

f(tc) = n2e-n2

and I still get lim f(tc) = lim e-n2 (after l'hopital)

Can you see another mistake? I'm very sure the max of this function is not zero.
 
From what I see from the original statement, the function is defined only for [itex]t \in \left[0,1\right][/itex], so does [itex]t_c=n[/itex] makes sense? What is the derivative's sign?
 
Just noticed something. Are you sure that you have the correct critical point? [itex]n-n^{2}t=0[/itex] gives t=?.
 
JSuarez said:
Are you sure that you have the correct critical point?

No, but the other ones didn't seem relevant. e-nt = 0 doesn't make any sense.
 
See the other post.
 
JSuarez said:
Just noticed something. Are you sure that you have the correct critical point? [itex]n-n^{2}t=0[/itex] gives t=?.

How embarrassing :redface:

then n-n2t = 0 => tc = 1/n

=> f(tc) = e-n

which still converges to zero as n -> inf
 
unless, since we are considering the uniform norm [tex]\left\|\cdot\right\|_{\infty} = max\left{\{\left|f(t)\right| : t \in [0,1] \right\}[/tex]

taking the absolute value of e-n would ensure that the max is infinite (sup)

?
 
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But substituting t=1/n gives 1/e, not 1/(e^n). You should also check if the maximum doesn't occur at the extreme points of the interval (in this case t=1; t=0, gives 0); the derivative test misses those ones.
 
  • #11
Ok...I need sleep apparently. Thanks so much for your time.
 
  • #12
We all do:zzz:. But I've checked it: there is a sequence of maxima approaching 0, and all equal to 1/e.
 

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