Max Stress + Shear Stress for 10,000N Axial Load

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the maximum stresses in a steel draw bar and the shear stress in pins under a 10,000N axial load. Participants explore the implications of geometry and loading conditions on stress calculations, addressing both theoretical and practical aspects of the problem.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculates the stress in the bar and shear in the bolt but expresses uncertainty about the results compared to textbook values.
  • Another participant points out the importance of units and questions the assumption that shear stress is doubled, suggesting that if the pin is in double shear, the shear stress should be halved.
  • There is a discussion about the terminology of "maximum stress," with participants noting that maximum tensile stress occurs at the pin holes due to reduced cross-sectional area.
  • Participants clarify the calculation for the net cross-sectional area of the bar, emphasizing the need to account for the area of the holes created by the pins.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need to consider the geometry of the bar and the effect of the pin holes on stress calculations. However, there is some disagreement regarding the interpretation of maximum stress and the treatment of shear stress in the pins, indicating that multiple views remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include potential misunderstandings of terminology, assumptions about loading conditions, and the need for clarification on connection details that may affect shear calculations.

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Homework Statement


A draw bar between a tractor and trailer is made from a length of steel bar 0.08m by 0.012m rectangular cross-section. The load is transmitted by means of a 0.015 diameter pin at each end. Determine the maximum stresses in the bar and pin if the axial load is 10,000N

Homework Equations


σ=F/A
ε=ΔL/L
τ=Fs/A

3. The attempt at the solution
Area of steel cross-section = 0.08x0.012=9.6x10-4
Stress is bar = F/A
= 10000/9.6x10-4
=10.42x106
Shear in Bolt = Fs/A A = ∏d2/4
=1.767x10-4m2
Shear in bolt = 10000/1.767x10-4
=56.588 x 106
But that's the shear in one bolt so surely the max shear is 2x that which would be 113.2MPA

Both values aren't the same as the ones in the back of the book so I'm not sure where I've gone wrong
 
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Yor calc for bar stress looks good, but don't forget units! Why do say shear stress is doubled? Each pin sees the same force. If the pin is in double shear (need connection detail), shear stress is halved.
 
I think i got confused with the term "maximum stress" is there any difference between asking: Determine the stress in the bar? And Determine the maximum stress in the bar
 
steve2510 said:
I think i got confused with the term "maximum stress" is there any difference between asking: Determine the stress in the bar? And Determine the maximum stress in the bar
Yes, generally there is a difference. In your example, the tensile stress in the bar is maximum at the pin holes, due to the reduction in cross section area of the bar at those locations. But I am not sure if the problem is asking for that...does it give the hole size and connection detail?
 
For the area in the bar it's done (0.08-0.015)x0.012=a but I don't see why.
 
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steve2510 said:
For the area in the bar it's done (0.08-0.015)x0.012=a but I don't see why.
Oh, OK, the cross section area must be reduced by the area of the hole, and that's what that calculation shows: the net cross section area at the hole. Another way of looking at it is this. The cross section without the hole is .08 X .012, and the area of the hole is .015 X .012. So the net area is (.08 X .012) - (.015 X .012) = (0.08-0.015) X 0.012, same result.
 
PhanthomJay said:
Oh, OK, the cross section area must be reduced by the area of the hole, and that's what that calculation shows: the net cross section area at the hole. Another way of looking at it is this. The cross section without the hole is .08 X .012, and the area of the hole is .015 X .012. So the net area is (.08 X .012) - (.015 X .012) = (0.08-0.015) X 0.012, same result.


Ah i see thanks very much !:smile:
 

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