Maximizing Area: Solving Isoperimetric Problem for Plane Curves

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The problem involves maximizing the area under a plane curve defined by its endpoints on the x-axis. The area is expressed through an integral involving the curve's length and its derivative. Participants are tasked with finding the function that describes the curve and determining the value of a that maximizes the area, ultimately leading to the identification of the curve as a semi-circle.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the application of the Euler-Lagrange equation and the implications of boundary conditions on the constants involved in the curve's equation. There is uncertainty about how to express the curve in terms of x and how to find the value of a that maximizes the area.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different aspects of the problem. Some have provided insights into the relationships between the constants and the endpoints of the curve, while others are questioning how to proceed with finding the necessary expressions for maximizing the area.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the need for a relationship between the curve's length and the variable a, as well as the requirement to express y in terms of x to evaluate the integral for length.

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Homework Statement


A plane curve with length [itex]l[/itex] has its end points at [itex](0, 0)[/itex] and [itex](a, 0)[/itex] on the positive [itex]x[/itex]-axis. Show that the area [itex]A[/itex] under this curve is given by [tex]A = \int_0^l y \sqrt{1 - y'^2}ds,[/tex] where [itex]y' = dy/dx[/itex], Find the function [itex]y(s)[/itex] and the value of [itex]a[/itex] which maximises [itex]A[/itex] and in turn determine that the curve in the [itex]x - y[/itex] plane is a semi-circle.

Homework Equations


The Euler-Lagrange equation

The Attempt at a Solution


I have managed to show that the area is given by that integral (by making the substitution [itex]ds^2 = dx^2 + dy^2[/itex]). I applied the Euler-Lagrange equation to the integrand and I got the solution [tex]y(s) = c\mathrm{sin}(\frac{s}{c} + k),[/tex] where [itex]c[/itex] and [itex]k[/itex] are arbitrary constants.

I think this is correct so far, but I'm unsure how to find the "value of [itex]a[/itex] which maximises [itex]A[/itex]", and I don't know how to express the curve in terms of [itex]x[/itex]. Do we need to use some relationship between [itex]s[/itex] and [itex]x[/itex]?
 
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Well, you know that this curves goes between (0,0) and (a,0) right? So in particular, y(0)=0 and y(l) = 0. Those should allow you to get rid of some constants.
 
Ok, so y(0) = 0 implies k = 0 and y(l) = 0 implies l/c = π, so c = l/π and y(s) = (l/π)sin(πs/l).

I'm still not entirely sure how I'm supposed to find the value of a that maximises the area or the equation in terms of x and y.
 
It seems to me that you should be able to calculate l using a.
 
Well, I know that [itex]l = \int_0^a \sqrt{1 + y'^2}dx[/itex] but in order to evaluate this integral I would need to know y in terms of x, which is what I'm trying to find.
 
Does anyone else have any ideas?
 

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