Maximizing Projectile Range on a Slope: Finding the Optimal Angle Alpha

  • Thread starter Thread starter FissionMan1
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Projectile Slope
Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around maximizing the range of a projectile launched at an angle alpha on a slope inclined at angle theta, specifically when theta is less than alpha. Participants are exploring the relationship between these angles and the initial velocity Vo, while deriving equations related to the projectile's motion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to derive equations for the range of the projectile on the slope and are questioning how to determine the optimal angle alpha for maximum range. There are discussions about using trigonometric relationships and kinematic equations to explore these concepts.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided equations and insights into the relationships between the angles and the range, while others are clarifying their understanding of the problem and the specific goals of the discussion. There is an ongoing exploration of the mathematical relationships without a clear consensus on the optimal angle.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraint of not wanting direct solutions, instead seeking guidance and clarification on their reasoning and derivations. There is a focus on understanding the implications of the angles involved in the projectile motion on a slope.

FissionMan1
Messages
19
Reaction score
0
How do you find the maximum range a projectile will hit (shot at angle alpha) on a slope (angle theta) when theta is less than alpha. Also, what is the best angle for alpha. I would only like a head start, do not post the answer please.

We know that there are constants alpha, theta, and Vo.

I derived the equation for the distance (L) the projectile will travel up the slope.

L=(2Vo^2)/g*(cos(a)/cos(b))*(sin(a)-cos(a)tan(b))
 
Physics news on Phys.org
My thoughts are that we make beta = 0 and alpha = 45, but I believe the professor is looking for an equation instead of an actual number so that I can prove it is the best angle.
 
Here we will have to develop a good relation.

Now the angle of the plane is theta and the angle of the projection is theta.
Now let the ground be represented by a line,AB. And the plane is AC

And the angle between AB and AC is alpha. Now you will have to use the following ideas.

[tex]1) cos\alpha\ = \frac{AB}{AC}[/tex]

2) The vertical displacement is zero wrt AC so now you can apply the equation of kinematics which covers time,initial velocity in y direction and g.
Now we can get time out of it.Now we know that the horizontal comp of velocity is constant and hence we can say that

[tex]AB = ucos\{\alpha\ + \theta\}T[/tex]

And now use 1 so you will get AB. Which is the range and now by using logic and trigonometry you can find the angle for which R is max.
 
I understand how to find R, but I'm not trying to find that. I am attempting to find the angle at which the projectile will land the farthest up the hill for a given Vo.
 
So when you get R. Try to find out that for which angle the R would be maximum.
 
R, according to your words, is the projectile's distance over a flat surface. I am trying to find the angle of maximum projection up a slope as a function of AC and theta.
 
Hold on. What are you trying to say.

I will have to break the forum rules as you are not understanding what i am trying to say.

The equation for AC is as follows

[tex]\frac{2u^2sin(\phi\ - \theta)cos\phi}{gcos^2\theta}[/tex]

where phi is alpha + theta. Now simplify it and you will get the following for AC

[tex]\frac{2u^2sin[(2\phi\ - \theta) - sin\theta]}{gcos^2\theta}[/tex]

To get maximum AC here

[tex]sin(2\phi\ - \theta) = 1[/tex]

Hence in that case max range would be

[tex]\frac{u^2}{g(1 + sin\theta)}[/tex]

All this equations, I have derived by the method i gave you in the last post.

And now from the above three equations you can find out the angle.If not i am always here.
 
Last edited:
I have figured it out. Thanks a bunch.
 

Similar threads

Replies
46
Views
7K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
2K
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
4K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
3K
  • · Replies 17 ·
Replies
17
Views
4K
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
4K
Replies
1
Views
3K