Maximum Acelleration of a System of Masses

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The problem involves analyzing the acceleration of a system of masses connected by a string over a pulley, specifically comparing the scenarios where a 1kg mass and a 100kg mass are interchanged in their positions. The context is set within a friction-free environment, focusing on the implications of maximum acceleration in such a system.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of accelerations for both configurations of masses and express confusion regarding the meaning of maximum acceleration. There are suggestions to create free body diagrams to visualize forces and clarify the problem setup.

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The discussion is active, with participants exploring different interpretations of the results obtained from the calculations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of free body diagrams and the implications of the calculated accelerations, but no consensus has been reached on the understanding of maximum acceleration.

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Participants note the assumption of a frictionless pulley and question the implications of using different values for gravitational acceleration. There is also mention of the need for clarity on the definitions and implications of maximum acceleration in the context of the problem.

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Homework Statement


A mass on a horizontal friction-free air track is accelerated by a string attached to another 10kg mass hanging vertically from a pulley. Suppose the masses described are 1kg and 100kg. Compare the acellerations when the masses are interchanged, that is, for the case when the 1kg mass dangles over the pulley and then the case where the 100kg mass dangles over the pulley. What does this indicate about the maximum acceleration of such a system of masses?


Homework Equations


Fg=mg
a=f/m

The Attempt at a Solution


I found the two acellerations (.099m/s^2 and 9.9m/s^2 respectively). However I do not understand what they mean by maximum acceleration or what the two acellerations indicate.
 
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liuquinlin said:

Homework Statement


A mass on a horizontal friction-free air track is accelerated by a string attached to another 10kg mass hanging vertically from a pulley. Suppose the masses described are 1kg and 100kg. Compare the acellerations when the masses are interchanged, that is, for the case when the 1kg mass dangles over the pulley and then the case where the 100kg mass dangles over the pulley. What does this indicate about the maximum acceleration of such a system of masses?


Homework Equations


Fg=mg
a=f/m

The Attempt at a Solution


I found the two acellerations (.099m/s^2 and 9.9m/s^2 respectively). However I do not understand what they mean by maximum acceleration or what the two acellerations indicate.

It will be easier if the pulley is frictionless. I guess I will assume it is ...

Can you draw a picture of each mass and the forces on each and then the net force on each mass (free body diagram)? If you can then you can make some mathematical statements that include a (acceleration). You know the two masses and g... all that's left is a... You might use T to signify tension since each mass will have this "force" as the masses are attached to each other.

Do this with the 100 kg mass on the horizontal plane and the 1 kg mass (hanging) and accelerating which way?

Then reverse the two masses. It should be obvious that the accelerations will be very different. So you did the above using g=10 m/s/s and now you see that one situation is very close to that and the other situation is a lot less than that? (If you used 9.8 for g you did something wrong). Hint one situation is close to freefall acceleration but not quite there...
 
That 9.9m/sec^2 value looks awful close to a well known acceleration value of an object subject to a certain force on Planet Earth. Hint: If the mass on the table is close to zero and the hanging mass is much greater than zero, what's the acceleration of the system?
 
Ohhh, I understand now. Thanks!
 

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