What Are the Maximum and Minimum Values of y When x^3 is 8+- 2(14)^1/2?

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The discussion focuses on determining the maximum and minimum values of y when x^3 equals 8 ± 2√14. Participants clarify that the goal is to show these extrema occur at specific x values rather than directly calculating y's maximum and minimum. The first derivative is established as dy/dx = (2y - x^2)/(y^2 - 2x), leading to y = x^2/2. Participants also discuss using the second derivative test and sign tests to confirm the nature of the critical points, ultimately concluding that both x values yield local minima. The conversation emphasizes the importance of correctly deriving x values from the given equations to demonstrate the required maxima and minima for y.
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In the first line of the image in post #21, while finding the second derivative, you have written -2x instead of y^2-2x
 
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Erm I have found my mistakes and able to show it but an additional question is can I use the sign test to find the maximum and minimum values from this kind of equation?sorry to bother you and thanks.
 
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Liang Wei said:
can I use the sign test to find the maximum and minimum values from this kind of equation?

You mean the second derivative test? It says only if the point is maxima or minima. It doesn't give you the value.
 
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Sign test is a test which you use a value which lies inside the interval of a variable,example x then substitute it into dy/dx to find the sign and we can find the maxima and minima.but anyways I manage to prove it by using 2nd derivative but not sure correct or wrong.
 
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Liang Wei said:
Sign test is a test which you use a value which lies inside the interval of a variable,example x then substitute it into dy/dx to find the sign and we can find the maxima and minima.
Oh that one, for that you need to know the interval, and it requires you to solve for x.
but anyways I manage to prove it by using 2nd derivative but not sure correct or wrong.

Correct as long as you don't assume the values of x with a calculator and as long as y has both maxima and minima.
 
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Ok thanks
 

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