What Are the Maximum and Minimum Values of y When x^3 is 8+- 2(14)^1/2?

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The discussion revolves around finding the maximum and minimum values of y in relation to the equation x^3 = 8 ± 2(14)^(1/2). Participants are exploring the implications of this equation within the context of calculus, particularly focusing on the relationship between x and y.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to clarify the definition of y and how it relates to x. There are discussions about substituting values into the equation for y, using derivatives to find stationary points, and the implications of the second derivative test. Some participants question the necessity of finding maximum and minimum values versus just identifying the points where they occur.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various participants sharing their approaches and questioning each other's reasoning. Some have provided insights into the use of derivatives and the implications of their findings, while others are still grappling with the definitions and methods required to progress.

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There are mentions of confusion regarding the use of calculators for approximations and the need for clarity on the original problem statement. Participants are also discussing the validity of using sign tests and the conditions under which they apply.

  • #31
In the first line of the image in post #21, while finding the second derivative, you have written -2x instead of y^2-2x
 
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  • #32
Erm I have found my mistakes and able to show it but an additional question is can I use the sign test to find the maximum and minimum values from this kind of equation?sorry to bother you and thanks.
 
  • #33
Liang Wei said:
can I use the sign test to find the maximum and minimum values from this kind of equation?

You mean the second derivative test? It says only if the point is maxima or minima. It doesn't give you the value.
 
  • #34
Sign test is a test which you use a value which lies inside the interval of a variable,example x then substitute it into dy/dx to find the sign and we can find the maxima and minima.but anyways I manage to prove it by using 2nd derivative but not sure correct or wrong.
 
  • #35
Liang Wei said:
Sign test is a test which you use a value which lies inside the interval of a variable,example x then substitute it into dy/dx to find the sign and we can find the maxima and minima.
Oh that one, for that you need to know the interval, and it requires you to solve for x.
but anyways I manage to prove it by using 2nd derivative but not sure correct or wrong.

Correct as long as you don't assume the values of x with a calculator and as long as y has both maxima and minima.
 
  • #36
Ok thanks
 

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