Maximum, minimum, and continuity

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the concepts of maximum, minimum, and continuity within the context of a function defined on an open interval (0, 1). Participants are examining the implications of theorems related to continuity and the behavior of the function at the endpoints of the interval.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are questioning the applicability of Theorem 3 to an open interval, discussing the implications of endpoints not being included in the domain. There are attempts to clarify the distinction between maximum and supremum, with some participants exploring the definitions and properties of these concepts in relation to the given function.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations being explored regarding the nature of maximum and supremum. Some participants have provided hints and guidance, particularly in distinguishing between these terms, while others express uncertainty about the relevance of their findings to the original problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the endpoints x=0 and x=1 are not included in the domain of the function, which raises questions about the definitions of maximum and minimum in this context. There is also mention of theorems that may not apply due to the open interval constraint.

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Homework Statement


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Theorem 3 that i will give in the attempt at a solution talks about a closed interval, here it's open

Homework Equations


Continuity:
$$\vert x-c \vert < \delta~\Rightarrow~\vert f(x)-f(c) \vert < \epsilon$$
$$\delta=\delta(c,\epsilon)$$

The Attempt at a Solution


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Karol said:

Homework Statement


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Theorem 3 that i will give in the attempt at a solution talks about a closed interval, here it's open

Homework Equations


Continuity:
$$\vert x-c \vert < \delta~\Rightarrow~\vert f(x)-f(c) \vert < \epsilon$$
$$\delta=\delta(c,\epsilon)$$

The Attempt at a Solution


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Theorem 3 is no help here, since the interval for this problem is 0 < x < 1. The problem is fairly simple -- you shouldn't need to invoke a theorem to answer it.
 
The derivative 2x is horizontal at 0, so there is a minimum or maximum. the fact that there isn't any other zero derivative proves there isn't another bending and it's rising, so the maximum is at 1
 
Remember ##0 < x < 1##. Also you don't need to think this in terms of derivatives.
 
##x=0## and ##x=1## are not in the domain of your function.
 
Karol said:
The derivative 2x is horizontal at 0, so there is a minimum or maximum. the fact that there isn't any other zero derivative proves there isn't another bending and it's rising, so the maximum is at 1

The points x=0 and x=1 are not in the domain of the given function!
 
Hint: What is the distinction between a maximum and a supremum?
 
1 is the supremum, x2 has no maximum.
0 is the infinum, x2 has no minimum
Is it the answer? it isn't part of the chapter, i learned about supremum here
 
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Karol said:
1 is the supremum, x2 has no maximum on the interval (0, 1).
0 is the infinum, x2 has no minimum on the interval (0, 1).
Is it the answer? it isn't part of the chapter, i learned about supremum here
 
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So is it the answer?
 
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Karol said:
So is it the answer?

Already answered!
 
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Thank you very much Ray, Mark, pasmith, LCKurtz and dgambh
 

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