Maxwell Distribution: Deriving Mean and Max Speed

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around deriving the mean speed and the maximum speed of particles described by the Maxwell distribution in statistical mechanics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need for the distribution function and the method to find the maximum of a function. There is an attempt to differentiate the distribution function, with some participants questioning the correctness of the differentiation process. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the calculation of the mean speed.

Discussion Status

Some guidance has been offered regarding the differentiation of the distribution function and the method for calculating the mean speed using probability functions. Multiple interpretations of the differentiation process are being explored, and there is an ongoing effort to clarify the steps involved.

Contextual Notes

The original poster mentions reliance on notes and textbooks, indicating potential gaps in available resources or information. There is an emphasis on using standard integrals, suggesting constraints related to the methods they are familiar with.

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Homework Statement




show that the mean speed of the particles (v-bar) and the speed of the maximum of the distribution are given by

v-bar=((8kT)/(pi*m))^(1/2)
and
v-max=((2kT)/m)^(1/2)

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The Attempt at a Solution


tried looking thru noted and textbook. i sussed that one is supposed to use standard integrals, but no notes or textbook is telling me how or where
please help, thanks in advance
 
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Do you have an expression for the distribution function? How would normally find the maximum of a function?
 
thanks for the suggestion
ok, so the distribution function is
p(v) is proportional to v^2 exp(-mv^2 /2kT)
so i differentiate it and get
dp/dv is proportional to (-m/2kT)*2v^3 exp(-mv^2 /2kT)=0
hmm
 
Not a bad start, that's the right idea, but you didn't differentiate correctly.

p(v) is proportional to v2·e-mv2/2kT,
or in other words (a function of v)·(another function of v).

Use the product rule for differentiation to find the derivative.
 
i got it
thanks a lot
still clueless on the mean speed tho
 
The mean of a quantity is often calculated by using it's probability function and setting up an integral ... are you familiar with that method?
 

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