McCabe-Thiele Diagram: Murphree Efficiencies & Reboiler Stage

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The discussion centers on the inclusion of the reboiler stage when determining the number of stages in a partial reflux distillation using the McCabe-Thiele diagram. There is a consensus among participants that the reboiler should be included as it represents the first step in the distillation process. Omitting the reboiler stage could lead to inaccuracies, as it affects the bottoms composition derived from the last tray. References to authoritative texts like Coulson and Richardson or Geankopolis are suggested for further clarification. Overall, the importance of including the reboiler in calculations is emphasized to ensure accurate results in distillation design.
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Hello,

I have a question regarding Murphree efficiences and the associated McCabe-Thiele diagram.

In partial reflux distillation, should I include the reboiler stage when stepping down (i.e. determining the # of stages) from the distillate to the bottoms composition? Or should I just use the total number of trays and forget the reboiler stage?

My friend asked a professor this question last semester and he told my friend to forget the reboiler. This doesn't make sense to me because if you do not include the reboiler stage then the diagram suggests the bottoms composition (the one coming from the reboiler) is the composition coming out from the last tray.

Here's the image of my current McCabe-Thiele diagram:
http://img434.imageshack.us/my.php?image=one8xh.jpg

Thanks.
 
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Having spent 4 years learning how to do this we have completely forgotten. It would seem to make sense to include the reboiler, but your construction just doesn't look right, if we had all the information you were given we could at least put our mind to it more completely.
 
In conclusio we think you are just about right.
 
yer , You must include the reboiler...the first step is always the rebolier...see Coulson and Richardson or Geankopolis (mass transfer) .
 
you shoould use a reboiler stage & counts it one extra so your total tray will become abt the trays calcualted from the graph plus the reboiler tray
 
You have to include the reboiler.
 
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