Mean free path and collision cross section

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the mean free path for an ion with a specified radius under various pressure conditions. The subject area includes concepts related to kinetic theory and gas behavior.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to use the mean free path formula and considers different equations related to gas number density and collision cross section. Some participants suggest calculating moles per unit volume to find number density, while others question the applicability of the equations given the unspecified gas identity.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring various approaches to calculate the mean free path, with some guidance offered on using Avogadro's number for conversions. There is a recognition of uncertainty regarding the gas identity and the equations being discussed, indicating an ongoing exploration of the topic.

Contextual Notes

The original poster notes that the calculations are intended for use in ion mobility within mass spectrometer instruments. The identity of the gas is assumed to be nitrogen, but this is not confirmed.

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Homework Statement



I do need to calculate the mean free path for an ion with a radius of 9 x 10‐8 cm in pressures of 10‐8 Torr, 10‐6 Torr, 10‐4 Torr and 10‐2 Torr

Homework Equations



There are different equations I found but the most one is λ= 1/Nσ
N gas number density which I do not know how to calculate based on radius and pressure.
And σ which is collision cross section σ =πd2
Another equation I found = 7×10−6/ r coll2 ×P(torr)

The Attempt at a Solution


I did convert radius to nm (0.9 nm) and applied the second equation
mean free path= 7×10−6/ 0.81 ×P(10-8) and so on for the different pressure
but I am not sure if this attempt is wright

These calculations are to use in the ion free path (ion mobility) in mass spectrometer instruments.
 
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If you can calculate the moles per unit volume, then use Avogadro's number to convert to number density, would that do?
 
the identity of gas is not mentioned but I assume nitrogen.
would the second equation be possible in which needs only the pressure and cross section section to calculate the mean free path.
 
Etox said:
the identity of gas is not mentioned but I assume nitrogen.
would the second equation be possible in which needs only the pressure and cross section section to calculate the mean free path.

I'm afraid that I'm not familiar with the second equation that you gave, so I can't advise (not without doing a bit of research).
 

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