Mean lifetime of pi(+) mesons - Special Relativity

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the mean lifetime of pi(+) mesons in the context of special relativity. The original poster presents a series of questions related to time dilation, distance traveled, and the behavior of photons in different reference frames.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts calculations involving time dilation and distance traveled by pi(+) mesons at a specific velocity. They express uncertainty regarding the application of length contraction to one of the questions. Other participants engage by prompting the original poster to relate learned concepts to the problem and question the assumptions made.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring various interpretations of the questions posed. Some guidance has been offered regarding the concepts of length contraction and reference frames, but no consensus has been reached on the specific calculations or interpretations.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of special relativity, particularly how different frames of reference affect measurements of time and distance. There is mention of potential confusion regarding the application of concepts learned in class.

lmstaples
Messages
31
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement



The proper mean lifetime of a \pi^{+} mesons is 26ns.
(a) (i) What is the mean lifetime of \pi^{+} mesons traveling with \beta=\frac{v}{c}=0.73?

(ii) What distance is traveled at this velocity during one mean lifetime?

(iii) What distance would be traveled in the absence of time dilation?

(iv) How long would the laboratory-frame distance calculated in part (ii) appear to be in
the rest frame of the \pi^{+} meson?

(b) In the experiment of Alvager and co-workers in 1964, gamma ray photons from the decay
of neutral \pi^{+} mesons traveling at 0.99975c were found to travel at c in the samedirection as the \pi^{+} mesons.

What was the speed of the photons in the rest frame of the \pi^{+} mesons?


The Attempt at a Solution



(a) (i) Mean Lifetime = \frac{26}{\sqrt{1-(0.73)^{2}}}=38ns

(ii) Distance traveled = (0.73)*(2.9979*10^{^})*(38*10^{-9})=8.32m

(iii) Distance traveled = (0.73)*(2.9979*10^{^})*(26*10^{-9})=5.69m

(iv) Not sure how to do that?

(b) Because of the postulates of Special Relativity, surely the speed of the photons is just c (speed of light) as light travels the same speed in all reference/inertial frames? Is it a trick question or not?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Hello, Imstaples.

Your work looks good, including (b). For (iv) did you learn about "length contraction"?
 
Yeah! I have done about length contraction and time dilation ect
 
OK, can you relate what you've learned about length contraction to question (iv)?
 
I thought about it: can I ask whether the value of (iv) would be bigger or smaller than (ii) as when I did work it out I got something around 12m

Unless I have the frames round the wrong way and its is infact equal to (iii)
 
Last edited:
Imagine a stick in the lab frame extending from where the mesons are created to where they decay after one mean lifetime.

In which frame is this stick at rest? In which frame is it moving? Your notes on length contraction should specify how the "rest length" compares to the "moving length". Or see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Length_contraction
 
Ah I see where I was going wrong... I think haha
 

Similar threads

Replies
24
Views
3K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
4K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
8K
Replies
4
Views
7K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
3K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
3K
Replies
8
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K