Mechanical Energy of a Physical Pendulum

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The discussion revolves around the mechanical energy of a physical pendulum, specifically focusing on a pendulum with a given mass, radius, and displacement angle. The original poster is attempting to calculate the potential energy when the pendulum is displaced from its rest position.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster describes their approach involving potential energy calculations and the use of trigonometric functions to find height. Some participants suggest alternative methods, such as considering polar coordinates and re-evaluating the trigonometric functions used.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem and offering guidance on potential approaches. There is no explicit consensus on the correct method or answer yet.

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Participants note that the problem is part of a general physics course, and there may be constraints related to the level of complexity expected in the solution. The original poster expresses frustration over the calculations and the perceived simplicity of the problem.

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So we have a physical pendulum. It has a mass of m=200 g and radius 10 cm. It's suspended from point O at a distance h=8 cm. from center C. It is displaced 0.1 rad and released from rest at t=0.

I'm struggling to find the mechanical energy of this pendulum. When it is displaced 0.1 rad before it is released, its mechanical energy is all in the form of potential energy U=mgy.

I've been working on this for a while now; I feel like this should be an easy problem and I'm overthinking it, but I'm making really complicated triangles and doing things like cos(0.1)=x/(R+h) and then (R+h) - x to find y. I'm not getting the correct answer though, which is 7.83 x 10^-4 J.
 
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Have you considered using polar coordinates?
 
Nope, didn't think we'd need to. This is for a general physics 1 class.
 
Ah, I see, I misread. I thought you were looking for equations of motion. Sorry about that. So, what is suspended from O, the mass? What answer are you getting?
 
O is the point of rotation. I am getting 1.76 x 10^-3 J.
 
eurekameh said:
When it is displaced 0.1 rad before it is released, its mechanical energy is all in the form of potential energy U=mgy.

I've been working on this for a while now; I feel like this should be an easy problem and I'm overthinking it, but I'm making really complicated triangles and doing things like cos(0.1)=x/(R+h) and then (R+h) - x to find y. I'm not getting the correct answer though, which is 7.83 x 10^-4 J.

Hope it works out when you come back after mind-clearing. Think your triangles should be leading you to sines rather than cosines. If all else fails, and as a check anyway, this is a smallish angle, and the sine of a small angle is approximately equal to the angle (in radians).
 

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