Maximum Kinetic Energy from a Physical Pendulum

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The discussion revolves around determining the maximum kinetic energy of a uniform rod acting as a physical pendulum, given its mass, length, and angular displacement. The context involves concepts from mechanics, particularly energy conservation and angular motion.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the use of conservation of energy principles, questioning the application of sine and cosine functions in calculating potential energy and its conversion to kinetic energy. There are discussions about the interpretation of the problem and the correct approach to determining the change in height of the center of mass.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and questioning each other's reasoning. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of trigonometric functions and the importance of visual aids, such as diagrams, to clarify the problem setup.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating potential misunderstandings about the physical setup and the mathematical relationships involved, particularly regarding the angular displacement and its impact on energy calculations.

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Homework Statement


Determine the maximum kinetic energy of a uniform rod of mass 0.5Kg and length 0.75 that has an angular displacement of 5 degrees.

Homework Equations


y = rsin (x) where x is the angular displacement

The Attempt at a Solution


Using conservation of energy ETotal = EMech + EPOTENTIAL

Kinetic energy is at a maximum when all potential energy is converted to kinetic energy

Centre of mass of of physical pendulum is equal to L/2

Therefore max kinetic energy = mg (l/2) sin (x)
= 0.0163417 J

I just have no idea if this is right
 
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xoxomae said:
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Using conservation of energy ETotal = EMech + EPOTENTIAL
Did you mean to write EKinetic instead of EMech?

Kinetic energy is at a maximum when all potential energy is converted to kinetic energy

Centre of mass of of physical pendulum is equal to L/2

Therefore max kinetic energy = mg (l/2) sin (x)
Can you explain why you used a factor of sin(x) here? Be sure to draw a picture to help find the change in vertical height of the center of the rod.
 
I used a factor of sin (x) because the change in the y-axis * mg is equal to total potential energy
y = r sin (theta) when changing between polar and cartesian coordinates
Is this the wrong way to think about it?
 
First of all, I want to make sure I'm interpreting the question correctly. I assume from the title that you are dealing with a swinging physical pendulum. I am also assuming that the maximum angular displacement from equilibrium is 5 degrees. Is this correct?
 
Would I have to use cos (x) instead of sin (x)?

Umm yes that's the question :)
 
xoxomae said:
Would I have to use cos (x) instead of sin (x)?
It's not a matter of just replacing sin(x) by cos(x). Did you draw a picture?
 
Okay, so i drew a picture and realized that I made a mistake.

I got to
Change in x = l/2 * (1- cos(x))
 
Looks good. But you're using x for two different things!
 

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