Mechanics of Materials - Internal Moment

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the internal moment at point B about the y-axis in a mechanics of materials context. Participants are addressing a homework problem involving forces and moments acting on a pipe structure.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant, Matt, presents his calculations for the weights of sections of a pipe and the vertical reaction at point A, expressing uncertainty about how to incorporate two 60N forces into his moment calculation.
  • Another participant provides a detailed breakdown of the moments at point B, including contributions from the weight of the tube and the forces acting on it, arriving at a total moment of -6.24 Nm, indicating a counterclockwise direction.
  • Matt expresses gratitude for the response and indicates he will work through the provided solution.
  • A question arises regarding the notation "-ve" used in the moment calculation, prompting a request for clarification on its definition.
  • A subsequent reply clarifies that "-ve" is shorthand for "negative," while "+ 'ive" denotes "positive."

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no explicit consensus on the correct approach to the problem, as participants are presenting different calculations and interpretations of the forces involved. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the accuracy of the moment calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully resolved the assumptions regarding the application of forces and moments, and there may be dependencies on specific definitions or conventions not clearly stated in the discussion.

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Homework Statement



Hi everyone. I am attempting to calculate the internal moment at point B about the y-axis. I have correctly found everything else.

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My calculations:
Weight of 500mm section of pipe = 58.9N
Weight of 400mm section of pipe = 47.1N
Vertical reaction at A = 58.9 + 47.1 = 106N

Homework Equations



Moment = Force x Distance

The Attempt at a Solution



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I'm not really sure I can do that with the two 60N forces, but I also can't see why not.
The correct answer is 6.23Nm according to the solutions provided.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Matt
 
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For the portion of the tube along the X axis due to the tube weight

Moment at B = (1/2)*g*12*(0.2)^2 = 2.35 Nm

For the downward 60N force

Moment at B = 0.05*60 = 3.0 Nm

For the rod portion along the Y axis

Moment at B = 0.2*0.4*g*12 = 9.41 Nm

For the upward 60N force

Moment at B = -0.35*60 = -21 Nm

Total moment at B = 2.35+3.0+9.41-21 = -6.24 Nm, where -ve sign CCW direction
 
Overt - Thankyou very much for the reply, I'll go and work through your solution now. It seemed like a pretty straight forward problem so it's been annoying me all day!

Much appreciated,
Matt
 
What does "-ve" in post 2 mean? Where is its definition? Could not find it in an on-line dictionary. Could you point me to an on-line source that defines it?
 
-'ve = negative, + 'ive = positive , its shorthand notation
 

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