Understanding Moment Diagrams: Why is the Maximum Moment at Point B?

In summary: N load taken about point C. The moment at point C is -30 kN ⋅ dx and the moment at point D is -30 kN + 24 kN = 0, so the moments are the same.But the moment due to the +26 kN load taken about point B is not the same as the moment due to the +56 kN load taken about point C because the distance between the points is different.
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taking this as example , we notice that the moment varies linearly (from 0 to max from A to B ) (pls concentrate on part between A and B ) , why the moment is max at B (hinge) ? why shouldn't the moment at min at A ( location where the force act) ?

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is it wrong ? i think the moment diagram should be drawn from moment (max ) to 0 at B , am i correct ? (red colour part which is drawn by me )
 
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chetzread said:

Homework Statement


http://www.mathalino.com/reviewer/m...tion-to-problem-403-shear-and-moment-diagrams
fqzDXT4.png

taking this as example , we notice that the moment varies linearly (from 0 to max from A to B ) (pls concentrate on part between A and B ) , why the moment is max at B (hinge) ? why shouldn't the moment at min at A ( location where the force act) ?

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


is it wrong ? i think the moment diagram should be drawn from moment (max ) to 0 at B , am i correct ? (red colour part which is drawn by me )
The bending moment is zero at point A and -30 kN-m at point B. How could it be otherwise?

Remember, M = F × d, and if d = 0, then M = 0.

At point A, the distance to the force F is d = 0, therefore M must be zero at A.
 
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I think the confusion might be that the hinge at B is drawn to hide the fact that the beam is moment-continuous over it. Thinking of the beam as a continuous, some rotation can occur there, but not the complete rotation as in a mechanism, that I suspect the op is thinking about.
 
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pongo38 said:
I think the confusion might be that the hinge at B is drawn to hide the fact that the beam is moment-continuous over it. Thinking of the beam as a continuous, some rotation can occur there, but not the complete rotation as in a mechanism, that I suspect the op is thinking about.
Thanks for ur reply !
now , my problem is the shear force act 26N downwards at point B...how can there still gt momenit about point B ? or the moment graph (from -30Nm to 0 ) is moment about other point (not B )?
 
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pongo38 said:
I think the confusion might be that the hinge at B is drawn to hide the fact that the beam is moment-continuous over it. Thinking of the beam as a continuous, some rotation can occur there, but not the complete rotation as in a mechanism, that I suspect the op is thinking about.
I think this beam has two pinned connections, one at B and the other at D. I prefer to call them pinned connections, rather than hinges, since the latter term is often used in a slightly different context with beam problems.

The OP seems hazy on the fact that the area under the shear force curve leads to the ordinates of the bending moment curve. Since the beam is free at the extreme left end, the shear force there is the 30 kN as shown on the diagram, but the moment is 30 kN ⋅ dx, where dx is the distance measured from the left end of the beam. Obviously, when dx = 0, then M = 0, not M = 30 kN-m.
 
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chetzread said:
Thanks for ur reply !
now , my problem is the shear force act 26N downwards at point B...how can there still gt momenit about point B ? or the moment graph (from -30Nm to 0 ) is moment about other point (not B )?
It's not clear what you are trying to say here.

You have a downward shear force of 30 kN which is applied at the extreme left end of this beam. This shear force remains constant until you reach the support at B, where there is an upward reaction of 56 kN. V = +56 kN - 30 kN = +26 kN after point B, which is the value shown on the shear force diagram. This shear force remains constant until you reach point C, where another 50 kN load is applied pointing down. V = +26 kN - 50 kN = -24 kN after point C. Again, this shear force value remains constant until the support at D is reached, where the reaction is RD = +24 kN. The shear force after point D is then V = -24 kN + 24 kN = 0, which indicates that the beam is in equilibrium as far as the forces acting on it are concerned.

With regards to the bending moment.your mistake was to assume that the moment due to the -30 kN load taken about point B occurs at the location of the load. This is simply not true. A moment is the product of a force and a distance. The -30 kN force wants to rotate the end of the beam about point B, not anywhere else. Therefore, the moment M = -30 kN-m is plotted at point B and not the left end of the beam.

Once you understand this, then constructing the moment curve from the shear curve should follow very easily.
 
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1. What is a moment diagram and why is it important?

A moment diagram is a graphical representation of the distribution of moments (a force multiplied by its perpendicular distance from a fixed point) along a structural element. It is important because it allows engineers and scientists to analyze the internal forces and stresses within a structure, which is crucial for designing safe and efficient structures.

2. What is the significance of the maximum moment at point B?

The maximum moment at point B represents the point of highest bending moment in the structure. This is important because it indicates the location where the structure is most vulnerable to bending and may require additional support or reinforcement.

3. Why is the maximum moment at point B often located at a support or load?

The maximum moment at point B is often located at a support or load because these points are where the structure experiences the greatest external forces, resulting in the highest bending moments. Additionally, supports and loads are typically located at the ends of a structure, where there is a change in direction of the applied forces, leading to higher bending moments.

4. How does the shape of a structure affect the maximum moment at point B?

The shape of a structure can greatly affect the maximum moment at point B. For example, a structure with a uniform cross-section will have a consistent maximum moment along its length, while a structure with varying cross-sections will have different maximum moments at different points. Additionally, the shape and orientation of the applied loads can also impact the maximum moment at point B.

5. What factors influence the magnitude of the maximum moment at point B?

The magnitude of the maximum moment at point B is influenced by several factors, including the applied loads, the shape and orientation of the structure, the support conditions, and the material properties of the structure. Additionally, the location of the maximum moment can also affect its magnitude, as it may be higher or lower depending on the distance from the support or load.

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