Mechanics Particular Wheel Problem

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The discussion revolves around a mechanics problem involving a particular wheel and its behavior under certain conditions. Participants are exploring concepts related to moments, equilibrium, and the significance of angles in the context of rolling motion.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants express confusion regarding the mechanism of the wheel and the meaning of the angle at the bottom. Questions are raised about the forces acting on the wheel in equilibrium, the choice of the point of rotation, and the implications of applying forces at different points on the wheel.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants seeking clarification on various aspects of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the instantaneous center of rotation and the nature of forces involved, but multiple interpretations and questions remain open.

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There are mentions of missing information, such as the specific conditions of the problem and the behavior of the wheel compared to a normal wheel. Participants also note issues with accessing the image related to the problem.

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http://www.uzapping.eu/upload/P3.jpg

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Only Moment's formulas (I think) or Eventually Euler's Law[/B]

The Attempt at a Solution

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It's supposed to be an easy problem. But I just don't understand the mechanism and the meaning of the angle on the bottom. So I don't know how to set the problem and how to proceed.
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Where is the question? And the image appears to be blank.
 
Marvin94 said:
It's supposed to be an easy problem. But I just don't understand the mechanism and the meaning of the angle on the bottom. So I don't know how to set the problem and how to proceed.
The angle at the bottom is the slope of the line through the point of contact with the ground and tangential to the inner circle.
For rolling wheel questions, it can help to use the fact that the instantaneous centre of rotation is the point of contact of the wheel on the ground.
 
OK, I got the image.
What are the forces acting when the wheel is in equilibrium?
which forces provide a torque?
What will be the direction of friction?
 
Thanks for your replies. For everyone don't see the image, the link is: http://www.uzapping.eu/upload/P3.jpg

However... I know that in order to find the equilibrium condition, the Moment should be equals to zero.
But what make me confused are manly these things:
- The particular behaviour of this wheel: I ask myself how this behaviour could change the equations or the calculation. So if someone has enough patience, it would be nice to understand the difference in the procedures between this problem, and the same one but with a normal wheel (which means, the direction of rotation simply follow the tangential force).
- Why should I choose the bottom point as point of rotation and not the centre of the wheel?
- Where exactly should be applied this force? On a point on the circle? Make it differences if it's applied in another point? The point is not given.

Often for me the real problem is to "understand what happens in the problem's situation". Thank you in advance.

Ps: Sometimes I also don't see the pictures with Firefox, but using Chrome it's ok.
 
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Marvin94 said:
- Why should I choose the bottom point as point of rotation and not the centre of the wheel?
You would not be choosing it as the point of rotation, it is the point of rotation. You can think of it as rotation about the centre of the wheel plus a linear movement, but if you ask what point is momentarily stationary the answer is the part of the wheel in contact with the ground.
 

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