Meditation Techniques for Achieving Spiritual Bliss - Robert

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around various meditation techniques aimed at achieving spiritual bliss, with a focus on transcendental meditation. Participants share their personal experiences, challenges, and insights regarding meditation practices, subjective experiences, and the influence of external factors such as substance use on meditation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Robert expresses difficulty in achieving a "no thought" experience in meditation and seeks guidance on resources to improve his practice.
  • One participant suggests that consistent practice is essential, noting that external stimuli can hinder the ability to quiet the mind.
  • A more experienced meditator shares insights from over 30 years of practice, emphasizing that understanding the nature of consciousness is crucial for deeper meditation.
  • Another participant discusses the use of cannabis as a means of connecting with the unconscious self, contrasting it with traditional meditation practices.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential negative effects of cannabis on clarity and perception during meditation, with one participant recounting their own experiences with it.
  • There is a challenge posed regarding the validity of using substances that induce paranoia and anxiety as tools for achieving objective perspectives in meditation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the effectiveness of meditation versus substance use, with no consensus on the best approach to achieving spiritual bliss. Some advocate for traditional meditation techniques, while others explore the role of cannabis in their practices.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the subjective nature of meditation experiences and the influence of personal beliefs and practices on outcomes. There are unresolved questions regarding the impact of external stimuli and substances on meditation effectiveness.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in meditation techniques, those exploring the intersection of spirituality and substance use, and practitioners seeking to deepen their understanding of consciousness may find this discussion relevant.

  • #61
I recommend active, thought-focused meditation. The goal is to

optimise brain activity with increased glucose level, increased

pulse and breathing rate. Start by eating something like honey

or something containing sugar or dextrose. Then start jumping on

a small trampoline-type jumper placed in the middle of a surround

sound audio system. Listen to any kind of music you enjoy at a

level that is loud enough to stimulate. Then, while jumping, focus on a philosophical question such as 'what is the difference

between empty space and nothing.' Soon you should not hear the

music and and you will be unaware of time. With your focused and

energized brain optimised, you with be amazed at what you will

find. If nothing else, it is less expensive than most drugs and

at the least, you will get a little exercise.
 

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