Megadrought in south western USA

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The discussion centers around the phenomenon of megadroughts in the southwestern United States, exploring the implications of climate change on precipitation patterns, snowpack levels, and water reserves. Participants examine various sources and data related to current and historical drought conditions, as well as the broader impacts on ecosystems and water management.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express skepticism about the sensationalism of science news, while others suggest there is a general consensus on diminished precipitation in the Western US, particularly the Southwest, during this century.
  • One participant highlights the historical low levels of snowpack in California and Nevada, attributing this to long-term hot and dry conditions.
  • A participant references a research article discussing the relative impacts of mitigation, temperature, and precipitation on megadrought risk, noting that even with good snowpacks, water reserves are insufficient to alleviate drought conditions.
  • Concerns are raised about the lack of aquifer recharge and insufficient rainfall to wet the soil beyond a few inches, affecting both vegetation and water supply.
  • Another participant mentions the increasing humidity and its effects on local ecosystems, contrasting it with the loss of trees and the expansion of arid climate zones in the Southwest.
  • Data from a global drought monitoring system is cited, indicating trends in drought severity across the globe over the past thirty years.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the trend of diminishing precipitation in the Western US, but there are multiple competing views regarding the implications and specific conditions of drought in different regions. The discussion remains unresolved on the broader impacts and future predictions.

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Limitations include the dependence on various definitions of drought, the variability of climate models, and the specific regional differences in precipitation and ecosystem responses.

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Is this bull ***** or does it have facts to beef it up?
https://www.sciencedaily.com/videos/ab8ea925c9e835237334d756a0c4d8a8.htm
 
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ScienceDaily seems to sensationalize science news, but I believe there is a general consensus that the Western US, and perhaps particularly the SW US, will see diminished precipitation during this century. We certainly see a lot less snow in the mountains in Cascades and Sierra Nevada ranges.

California and Oregon monthly precipitation - http://www.cnrfc.noaa.gov/rainfall_data.php#monthly

The depth and breadth of the seasonal snowpack in any given year depends on whether a winter is wet or dry. Wet winters tend to stack up a deep snowpack, while dry ones keep it shallow. By 2015, long-term hot and dry conditions in California and Nevada had brought snowpack to historically low levels.
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/WorldOfChange/sierra_nevada.php

Colorado climate (2003) - dated material
http://climate.colostate.edu/climateofcolorado.php
http://climate.colostate.edu/CO_precip_status.php
http://climate.colostate.edu/coloradowatersummaries.php

http://climatetrends.colostate.edu/ - more recent - but specific data hard to locate.
http://climate.colostate.edu/drought.php
http://climate.colostate.edu/~drought/ - current analysis

US drought situation - http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/drought/201608
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/drought/201608#national-overview
 
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This is the source of the megadrought story: http://advances.sciencemag.org/content/2/10/e1600873

RESEARCH ARTICLECLIMATOLOGY
Relative impacts of mitigation, temperature, and precipitation on 21st-century megadrought risk in the American Southwest

In the late '90s started focusing on global water issues and, living in the western US, looked closely at changing climate patterns there and that effect on water reserves . Even with a couple years of good snowpacks in the Sierra Nevada, the recharge of the water into the total system will not be enough to take California out of its drought. What isn't seen by looking at surface water is that aquifers aren't being recharged. That's bad for the people who draw on them. What's bad for the plants is that rainfall isn't recharging the soil. Just before this last Big Sur fire, I was monitoring soil moisture in the area. Since 2002, rainfall hasn't been sufficient to wet the soil deeper than a few inches. In the past it was the cumulative effect of successive winter storms that wetted the soil to below the root zone. Now, many oaks and pines that were identified as water-stressed back then are dead. I haven't quite figured out what is happening in Arizona, where I live half the time. There is sufficient rainfall to keep drought-resistant native shrubs alive, but I've lost a few trees on my property. Ironically (to me) is that the humidity has increased so that moss is growing in shaded areas of the arroyos. The long term weather that defines climate zones is unstable and in the end, given the current climate models, it appears that the desert/arid climate zone is expanding in the Southwest. This is a rough and crude summary of what we've come up with in the Global Environmental Focus Group of the American Geophysical Union.
 
Astronuc said:
..but I believe there is a general consensus that the Western US, and perhaps particularly the SW US, will see diminished precipitation during this century...

For the globe, this seems to be the definitive history of the last thirty years.

Source: Hao, Z. et al. Global integrated drought monitoring and prediction system. Nature, Scientific Data 1, Article number: 140001 (2014) doi:10.1038/sdata.2014.1

"Fraction of global land areas under D0 to D4 drought severity levels"
sdata20141-f5.jpg


"Fraction of the global land in D0 (abnormally dry), D1 (moderate), D2 (severe), D3 (extreme), and D4 (exceptional) drought condition (Data: Standardized Precipitation Index data derived from MERRA-Land). "
 

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