Merging the strong force with the gravitational force

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This discussion explores the potential mathematical merging of gravity and the strong force, focusing on the compatibility of gluons as vector bosons that could create a force between similarly charged objects. The concept of a gluonic field is proposed, which may behave analogously to virtual photons in electromagnetic fields, potentially explaining the weakness of gravity. The discussion references the Weinberg-Witten theorem, which imposes constraints on the graviton's emergence from relativistic quantum field theories, while also noting that string theory offers a unifying framework that circumvents these constraints.

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has anyone tried to merge gravity and the strong force mathematically?

The two seem very compatible--the gloun is the only vector boson capable of causing a force to be applied between two similarly charged objects.

Isn't it likely that there is some kind of gluonic field, which behaves similarly to virtual photons in an electromagnetic field, which would basically be gravitation?

it would explain why gravity is so weak too, since the strong force is the most powerful force at 10^-15 meters, but then falls off exponentially. However it is still non zero, and the negative rate of change of the exponential decreases. But if you integrated the strength of the strong force with respect to distance across the mass of the system, then i could see the small components of the strong force adding up and resembling the gravitational pull of a system. it seems like a complicated calculation though.

Just curious if this is being considered at all or if it has been disproven.
 
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The Weinberg-Witten theorem puts strong constraints on the graviton being "emergent" from another relativistic quantum field theory (but things like Sakharov's induced gravity are not ruled out by the Weinberg-Witten theorem). The graviton and something like QCD are unified by string theory which evades the Weinberg-Witten theorem.
 

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