Methods for energy harvesting in expanding universe?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around theoretical methods for extracting energy from the accelerated expansion of the universe. Participants explore various gedankenexperiments and mechanisms, questioning the feasibility of these ideas without resorting to speculative concepts like exotic matter.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant mentions the "tethered galaxies" gedankenexperiment as a known approach to energy extraction from cosmic expansion.
  • Another participant challenges the claim of extensive discussion, asking for clarification on who has engaged in this discourse.
  • Several participants note the existence of a recent related thread, suggesting that the topic has been previously addressed.
  • A participant critiques the original post for misrepresenting the role of dark energy in the context of energy extraction, arguing that it is not an exceedingly speculative element.
  • There is a suggestion that further discussion should occur in the previously linked thread rather than opening a new one.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the characterization of the discussion's depth and the appropriateness of opening a new thread on a previously discussed topic. There is no consensus on alternative mechanisms for energy extraction beyond the mentioned gedankenexperiment.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in understanding the implications of dark energy and the speculative nature of proposed mechanisms for energy extraction. There is also a lack of clarity on the definitions and assumptions surrounding the concepts discussed.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in theoretical physics, cosmology, and energy extraction methods in the context of cosmic expansion may find this discussion relevant.

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Methods for energy harvesting in expanding universe?
There has been much discussion about how could we (theoretically) extract energy from the accelerated expansion of the universe.

However, the only gedankenexperiment I can found is the "tethered galaxies" one (e.g. https://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0104349).

However, has somebody proposed an alternative mechanism or can someone come up with an alternarive scenario where we could make useful work from the accelersted universe expansion without using exceedingly speculative elements (like exotic matter)?
 
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Suekdccia said:
There has been much discussion
Where? By whom?
Suekdccia said:
the only gedankenexperiment I can found is
Than how can you say there is a lot of discussion?

Many of your threads have bad starts, but you are opening with a contradiction here.
 
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Didn't we just have a thread about this recently here on PF?
 
Suekdccia said:
Has somebody proposed an alternative mechanism or can someone come up with an alternarive scenario where we could make useful work from the accelersted universe expansion without using exceedingly speculative elements (like exotic matter)?
You are misdescribing the scenario that was discussed in your previous thread (linked to in post #4). The "exotic matter" involved is just dark energy, i.e., the thing that is causing the accelerated expansion. The speculative model in the paper cited in your previous thread was, as discussed in that thread, just an alternative way of modeling dark energy (and, as I pointed out in that thread, I don't really see the point of the alternative way of doing it, just doing the analysis in standard de Sitter spacetime would be simpler).

Further discussion can be done in the previous thread; there is no point in having two open threads on the same topic.

Thread closed.
 
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