Mini-Blinds on Your Car Radiator

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The discussion revolves around the use of mini-blinds or shutters on car radiators to improve fuel efficiency and reduce drag. Participants explore the effectiveness of these mechanisms compared to traditional methods of airflow management in vehicles, including the use of air dams and other obstructions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that while turbines can be used to manage airflow to the radiator, simpler methods like a sheet of plywood could be more effective in reducing drag and saving energy.
  • Another participant proposes the idea of an air dam that could adjust based on proximity to obstacles, potentially enhancing aerodynamic efficiency.
  • A different viewpoint recalls historical practices in racing where duct tape was used to block airflow for drag reduction during qualifying laps, indicating practical applications of airflow management.
  • Some participants express a humorous take on the use of duct tape and other unconventional solutions for various mechanical issues, suggesting a light-hearted perspective on problem-solving in automotive contexts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple competing views on the effectiveness of different methods for managing airflow and reducing drag. The discussion remains unresolved, with no consensus on the best approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various automotive technologies and practices, but the discussion does not delve into specific technical details or empirical data supporting their claims.

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Readers interested in automotive engineering, fuel efficiency innovations, and practical applications of airflow management in vehicles may find this discussion relevant.

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When I wrote this with regard to wind turbines on cars:
russ_watters said:
Let me give a real-world example that may help you out:

All cars have a radiator and grille in the front. In a lot of cars there is an air scoop to direct air to the radiator. Flow through the radiator (and then the engine compartment) is awfully draggy. Virtually any obstruction to that flow would would reduce drag. So if you placed a turbine in the airscoop, less air would get to the radiator, so the drag of the car would decrease. But a sheet of plywood across the airscoop would do a better job of blocking the airflow and would therefore decrease drag even more: and more importantly, the sheet of plywood would save more energy than the turbine could generate.

In other words, there is nothing you can do with a turbine to reduce the drag on a car that couldn't be done better another way. [emphasis added]
...I had no idea manufacturers actually did such things:
Just as mini-blinds help keep out the sun, automakers are starting to use their own version of shutters to keep out the wind — making cars more fuel efficient...

When they are open, the car can breathe better on hot days or under stress, like when it's chugging up a hill. When they are closed, the car becomes more aerodynamic, trapping or disrupting less air and increasing fuel mileage up to 2%.
Ford is using the shutters on its new Focus, both regular and high fuel-efficiency versions. Chevrolet has them on its new Cruze Eco, a high-mileage model of the new compact sedan.
Both were preceded by BMW, which uses them in Europe on cars with smaller engines than it sells in the U.S.
http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2011-04-06-shutters-for-cars.htm

Interesting stuff.
 
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Maybe the next step is a more aggressive air dam under the front bumper, with a sensor to cause it to flip up out of the way when you come close to a curb or speedbump...
 
Cool, thanks for that o lad!

I thought this was going to be about those covers you see on Land Rovers from the days when you wanted to keep them as warm as possible on cold days, before thermostats were any good at sealing things.
 
racers been doing this for years..we put duct tape over the front grille to block off flow..during three lap qualifying...reduces drag big time..and high heat makes big horsepower,,it works..by replacing the tape with mechanical means would be good
 
All of lifes problems can be solved with two things, duct tape and WD-40. If it moves and it shouldn’t, you need duct tape. And if it doesn’t move and it should, you need WD40.

There's nothing racers can't do with gaffer tape.
 
and if it moves and shouldn't then does when it should...use BEER..so there are three things not two..in OH-10 that is...but i digress
 

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