Minimum potential difference, Balmer series

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving the minimum potential difference required for electrons to excite hydrogen atoms from their ground state to produce a line in the Balmer series. The subject area includes concepts from quantum mechanics and atomic physics, particularly focusing on electron transitions and energy levels in hydrogen.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the choice of initial and final energy levels for the Balmer series, questioning the assumptions made regarding the excitation of hydrogen atoms. There is discussion about the energy required to excite the atom and the relationship between potential difference and energy levels.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants seeking clarification on the correct energy levels to use for the Balmer series and the process of excitation. Some guidance has been offered regarding the nature of the Balmer series and the necessity of exciting the atom to a higher state before emission can occur.

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Participants are navigating through previous misunderstandings and are attempting to reconcile their calculations with the theoretical framework of the Balmer series. There is a focus on the energy levels of hydrogen and the implications of electron transitions for the observed spectral lines.

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Homework Statement


-A beam of electrons bombards a sample of hydrogen in its ground state.
a) Through what minimum potental difference must the electrons be accelerated if only one line of the Balmer's series can be observed?

Homework Equations


V= h^2/2meλ^2 (V=potential difference)
1/λ=R((1/n(i)^2)-(1/n(f)^2))

The Attempt at a Solution



...1/(1.09*10^7((1/2^2)-(1/3^2)))=λ, λ=6.60*10^-7
V= h^2/2meλ^2
...((6.626*10^-34)^2/((2*(9.11*10^-31)(1.6*10^-19)(6.60*10^-7)^2))= 3*10^-6 volts
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This is a question I got wrong on a previous homework and I am still trying to figure out how to correctly figure this out. I just am unsure if I am even doing this correctly and I have tried this in quite a few ways.
 
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Hello. Can you explain why you chose n(i) = 2 and n(f) = 3 ? Note that the atoms are initially in the ground state. The electrons must excite the atoms from their ground state to the appropriate energy level for which the first Balmer line can subsequently be produced.
 
I chose 2 because that is where the Balmer lines start so that is what I assumed I must use. If that is wrong may you elaborate on where I should begin at?
 
The atom cannot emit light unless it is first excited into an excited state. Where does the energy come from to excite the atom? Also, to what minimum energy level must the atom be excited in order to be able to emit one of the Balmer lines?
 
The first excited state is -13.6Ev/4= -3.4eV is where the Balmer lines start due to the n=2 is the point after the ground state. Also you excite the atom through collisions to bump one from one state to another. Would I use E = q*V and just subtract the first state from the 2nd? Such as -13.6Ev/1.6*10^-19C - -3.4 eV/1.6*10^-19C= -6.38 *10^19 Volts would be the potential difference?
 
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You need to look into what the Balmer series represents (I think there's a Wikipedia article that explains the various series fairly well, if memory serves). In short, the series is a result of electrons jumping down to the 2nd state. In order to jump down to the second state they must first be kicked up to a higher state than that...
 

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